Whatcha watching?

[FilterFunk]

As I posted a couple weeks ago; a very good movie though it should not be mistaken for history
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/whatcha-watching.1455921/page-321#post-28478872

It's sort of appropriated history based on elements. Much like how "U-571" recast the British capture of a U-boat and its Enigma machine as an American action.

Excellent info! I didn't know any of that.

I think the movie would have been just as compelling, if not more so, without the dramatic license. I'm always much more interested in, and compelled by, the urgency of the ramifications of the scientific process, and the process itself, than by the personal stuff regarding a movie like this. When it comes to history, I guess I'm more of a documentary guy! I did enjoy the movie, though...

 

[Dynacord]

Excellent info! I didn't know any of that.

I think the movie would have been just as compelling, if not more so, without the dramatic license. I'm always much more interested in, and compelled by, the urgency of the ramifications of the scientific process, and the process itself, than by the personal stuff regarding a movie like this. When it comes to history, I guess I'm more of a documentary guy! I did enjoy the movie, though...

Agreed.

I was at the Polish premiere of Imitation Game (with the director and cinematographer there IIRC). The history is very well known - and a point of pride - in Poland. It was awkward.

 

[FilterFunk]

Agreed.

I was at the Polish premiere of Imitation Game (with the director and cinematographer there IIRC). The history is very well known - and a point of pride - in Poland. It was awkward.

I'm a big proponent of giving credit where credit is due. I don't like the idea of omitting the significant contributions of others just to pad one's own story.

I'm looking at the movie differently now, but that's a good thing. I'd rather know the whole truth.

 

[Jeff Scott]

The Imitation Game:

It's everything I hoped "Oppenheimer" would be.

If you haven't yet, watch A Beautiful Mind. To me, it is part of an interesting trio of films (The Imitation Game and Oppenheimer being the other two).

 

[Jeff Scott]

I'm a big proponent of giving credit where credit is due. I don't like the idea of omitting the significant contributions of others just to pad one's own story.

I'm looking at the movie differently now, but that's a good thing. I'd rather know the whole truth.

True, but then lots of movies use the phrase "based on a true story", which doesn't necessarily detract from the movie having a good story, the facts, notwithstanding.

 

[Gorn]

I watched bits and pieces of The Island. Haven't seen it in years. Ewan McGregor was awful at sounding American. Prime Scarlet Johansson. Ooof.

 

[WG Plum]

I watched bits and pieces of The Island. Haven't seen it in years. Ewan McGregor was awful at sounding American. Prime Scarlet Johansson. Ooof.

Yarp, SJ. Stupid movie, but fun.

 

[FilterFunk]

True, but then lots of movies use the phrase "based on a true story", which doesn't necessarily detract from the movie having a good story, the facts, notwithstanding.

I tend to feel differently when it comes to movies based on world history, though. I don't expect 100% accuracy, but I'd rather there not be blatant omissions or revisions.

 

[fig]

...ended up binging Gen V as a supplement to season 4 of The Boys.

You and a couple of other folk mentioned Gen V. I watched the first episode this morning and I'll be finishing the series. And that scene with Little Cricket and her 'date'! LMFAO!

Also watched a film called Bagdad Cafe (1987). Comedy-drama, a bit quirky, light entertainment. Enjoyed it.

 

[Dynacord]

You and a couple of other folk mentioned Gen V. I watched the first episode this morning and I'll be finishing the series. And that scene with Little Cricket and her 'date'! LMFAO!

Also watched a film called Bagdad Cafe (1987). Comedy-drama, a bit quirky, light entertainment. Enjoyed it.

I remember really liking Bagdad Cafe back then. Worth revisiting. I lived in (then West) Berlin in 1988-89 and the theme song, Calling You was a minor hit (not surprising that the movie was popular in Germany).

 

[GregC]

You and a couple of other folk mentioned Gen V. I watched the first episode this morning and I'll be finishing the series. And that scene with Little Cricket and her 'date'! LMFAO!

Also watched a film called Bagdad Cafe (1987). Comedy-drama, a bit quirky, light entertainment. Enjoyed it.

Wow, completely forgot about this movie. I think I saw it in the theater. A delightful little flick.

 

[Dynacord]

Also watched a film called Bagdad Cafe (1987). Comedy-drama, a bit quirky, light entertainment. Enjoyed it.

A great, funny and sentimental (not in at all a bad way) companion film to Bagdad Cafe is Schultz Get the Blues - the similarities are obvious - and those here might appreciate the music aspects:

 

[murphy]

As with The English Patient, a good movie though far from objective history. It was a Polish team that broke Enigma and created the first "bombe" - they even provided working copies of the enigma machines to England and France in July of 1939; which were largely disregarded. Turing came into play when the Germans added an additional rotor - significant work to be sure but clearly built on the previous work.

"In 1932 a team of young mathematicians from the University of Poznań was set up. Among them were the main code breakers Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski. It was Rejewski who first cracked the Enigma code, in only ten weeks. His excellent mathematical education, fluent command of German, exceptional intuition and completion of a course in cryptology, together with the intelligence information he received from the French Secret Service, led to his success. The first messages were deciphered as early as Christmas 1932." https://blogs.bl.uk/european/2018/01/polish-mathematicians-and-cracking-the-enigma.html

There are a lot of other issues, a very good article on some of them here: Saving Alan Turing from His Friends | Christian Caryl unfortunately most of it is paywalled but the main points:

• Rather than an awkward and robotic genius as portrayed in the movie, Caryle claims that Turing could be charming and had a sense of humor.

• Rather than a “tragic outsider” in “a blinkered society,” Turing was a “willing participant in a collective enterprise.”

• Rather than a small isolated group of codebreakers that achieved no results in the first two years the group “was doing productive work from the very beginning of the war.” In addition, the group was much larger than the small cohort seen in the movie.

• The director Tyldum and screenwriter made up the subplot with the interaction between John Cairncross (the Soviet spy) and Turing.

All that said, it's still an enjoyable movie! It just should not be mistaken for history (as it commonly is).

Well...How disappointing ....and I wonder why Hollywood does this kind of thing.
It was a great movie.

They also complained when Ben Afflek made that movie about how the American diplomats were saved in Iran ....but it was actually the Canadians that saved them and gave them all Canadian passports...not Americans, as portrayed..."Argo" 2012

 

[fig]

...companion film to Bagdad Cafe is Schultz Get the Blues - the similarities are obvious - and those here might appreciate the music aspects:

Thanks for the heads-up. Never heard of Schultze Gets the Blues, but from the preview, I already know I'll like it. Now on my list. Wife and I loves us some Zydeco, too.

 

[factory presets]

Outlander. Right on the outer edge of my chick flick tolerance. But I do like time travel entertainment. And there's the option to fast forward over the interminable old people in love sex scenes to make it doable.

Ain't like I'll be reading those books.

 

[Parzival]

Dark Matter

And I don’t know what is happening. This is nuts.

 

[definenredefine]

The 2004 remake of the Manchurian Candidate. It was a good psych thriller, reminded me a lot of Jacob's Ladder.

 

[osv]

Watched Oppenheimer this evening. Really well done.

 

[factory presets]

Outlander

Or not. Getting less time travel and more period drama every time I turn it on. Suspect I've seen my last paradox.

 

[Dynacord]

Or not. Getting less time travel and more period drama every time I turn it on. Suspect I've seen my last paradox.

I ended up bailing on it. Way too saccharin. Best part (to me, at least) is the family castle is the same one that was used in Monty Python and The Holy Grail.