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Whats the difference of woods?

#141
peterpalmieri said:
Please describe to me in detail what anecdotal evidence you've gathered that has led you to the conclusion that the difference is little to none.

Details please, anything that may lead me to believe you have any experience to point to a contrary opinion.

What basses have you played that were identical accept the wood, did you own them, build them, play them in a store? What other parts were the bass made of? the type of bridge? the pickups? What kind of amp did you use?

How many times in your life have you done this?
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When I conclude what you say I have, I'll substantiate it.
 
#146
bigbottomline said:
When I conclude what you say I have, I'll substantiate it.
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So what your saying is it's your opinion that wood has very little to no impact on the tone of a bass but you really have no experiences that you'd like to share with anyone here as to why.

EVERYONE ELSE:

This may seem like a derail or off topic but it's very important. Some TB members with a lot of experience give us their thoughts on this topic and others with little to no experience come in and disagree. They ask for data, blind tests etc. state that wood doesn't make a difference and can provide no experiences or reasons why. They ask for facts but don't even have the perspective to give an informed opinion.
 
#148
peterpalmieri said:
EVERYONE ELSE:

This may seem like a derail or off topic but it's very important. Some TB members with a lot of experience give us their thoughts on this topic and others with little to no experience come in and disagree. They ask for data, blind tests etc. state that wood doesn't make a difference and can provide no experiences or reasons why. They ask for facts but don't even have the perspective to give an informed opinion.
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It's especially funny how they don't even provide any of their personal anecdotal evidence that the wood isn't a factor.
 
#150
bigbottomline said:
I'm not saying that the anecdotal evidence is wrong. I'm saying it doesn't support the argument. It doesn't prove anything. And therefore, I'm not convinced.

The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
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You claim the anecdotal evidence supporting the effect of the wood isn't valid...now you're going to have to prove it.

Nobody's trying to convince you of anything. Since you can't hear the effect of the wood it doesn't matter anyway.
 
#151
mongo2 said:
Well, how about it?

Please grace us with your sage wisdom accumulated from your plenty of experience.

BTW, I have many, many plentys of experience so don't try to fool me.

:)
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Why? My experience wouldn't prove anything in this debate, just as your doesn't. But so you know me better, I've been playing for 16 years. I've owned about 30 basses; right now I have 10 plus 1 on order. So what?

Geesh, I'm looking for evidence that shows that wood type makes a difference. Anecdotal evidence isn't valid. Why are people reacting as if I'm insulting them? (what's with the snarky "grace us with your wisdom" tone?)
 
#152
mongo2 said:
How about you providing the hard evidence that proves the anecdotal evidence is wrong?
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I think the problem here is that bigbottomline and you are arguing from different angles. From a purely scientific standpoint, and in an effort to arrive at a conclusion with absolute objective certainty, big is right; it's up to the one making the claim to provide objective, impartial evidence, to prove to a skeptic that their claim is right. It's not the skeptic's responsibility to disprove something when it hasn't been proven in a scientific manner.

You, john and others are arguing more from the standpoint of your personal experiences, and that is enough to convince you. Which is perfectly fine, and I personally do take your informed opinion as evidence supporting the claim. But I wouldn't say it's objective, absolute proof, and you can't expect someone looking for absolute certainty derived from scientific methodology to believe you. Then again, I'm willing to bet there's a lot of things we take for granted and believe in despite never reading a meticulous scientific journal entry to establish it.

Again, it's just different perspectives, and different people looking for different kinds of proof/evidence.
 
#157
peterpalmieri said:
So what your saying is it's your opinion that wood has very little to no impact on the tone of a bass...
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No, that's not what I'm saying. I've made that pretty clear.

but you really have no experiences that you'd like to share with anyone here as to why.
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I will share as more of a personal thing, but that won't help the debate.

peterpalmieri said:
EVERYONE ELSE:

This may seem like a derail or off topic but it's very important. Some TB members with a lot of experience give us their thoughts on this topic and others with little to no experience come in and disagree. They ask for data, blind tests etc. state that wood doesn't make a difference and can provide no experiences or reasons why. They ask for facts but don't even have the perspective to give an informed opinion.
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Sorry, but your Public Service Announcement is also irrelevant to the debate. Nice assumptions, though.
 

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