Where in the effects chain should I put the high pass filter?

[cchorney]

A quick question for the great Talkbass hive mind - I'm rebuilding my pedal board to make room for my new high pass / low pass pedal and as long as I have it all separated I might as well consider changing the order of effects if it makes sense. The Sansamp has to go last since it's my DI to FOH, and the wireless has to go first because duh. Otherwise I'm open to suggestions.

Where should I put the new pedal in the sequence, and should I move anything around?

 

[Bob_Ross]

I have no opinion on where your filter should go in that particular chain (or rather...my opinion is my stock answer wherever anyone asks "Where Should _________ Go In My Chain?" and that is, don't lock yourself down to any one location, get a loop selector or flip-flop pedal so you can change where it's located in your chain) but I'm just chiming in on this thread to say that a Bluetooth Page Turner is totally badass!

 

[Riff Ranger]

I would also like to be more helpful, but I just have the same HPF/LPF and the same question

 

[ClusterFlux]

I usually put it first. Sometimes it goes after the compressor. I doubt any subsequent processing will reintroduce any frequencies that I edited out, at least not in any meaningful or detrimental volume.

 

[Killing Floor]

I have put mine last, before amp input. Now I use the onboard in the Mesa amps and removed the pedal from my board.

 

[Zbysek]

If I were you, I would put chorus and HPF/LPF in the Sansamp’s FX loop...

 

[Hypocrite]

I put my LPF after distortion, and HPF after everything

 

[NoiseNinja]

I got my HPF placed at the very end of my effects chained, the selectable HPF fixed at 40Hz build into the ART Tube MP Project Series tube preamp that is the last step in my ampless setup, before going into a PA or poweramp with full range cab, so I would say towards the end of your signal chain.

 

[Greg75]

I'd put it last or in your amp's effects loop, if it has one. The Sansamp does not need to have the filter in front of it for the DI. FOH can/will apply any filtering necessary at that end.

 

[GMC]

The Low pass filter is to reduce top end hiss or brittleness. The High pass filter is there to protect your speaker cones and reduce watt eating / cone bending sub rumble. So usually last in your chain before your amp would be my call. But hey...each to his own.

 

[Zooberwerx]

HPF before the compressor if present. Looking at the lay-out, I'm of the impression that each effect may benefit from the addition of high-pass filtering. I'd place it directly after the wireless receiver. The all-in-one pedal almost sounds like a good idea but low-pass filtering may require a different approach...and placement! Kinda like putting salt & pepper in the same shaker.

Riis

 

[MotorCityMinion]

If one does not know where it goes, does one even need it?
My thoughts... right after the tuner, before compression and certainly before any modulation effects. YMMV.

 

[Zbysek]

"Need"? That's not the word I use in connection with pedals...and music gear in general. "Want"? Oh, yes...

 

[40Hz]

Dead last in the signal chain for me.

If the amp has a serial effects loop I’ll position it so that the HPF output goes into the return jack. In other words, right before the power amp stage.

If there isn’t an effects loop then it’s the last pedal in the chain before going into the front jack.

 

[burgerdj]

After a bit of experimenting, I have mine at the front of the chain. I found that eliminating the sub-lows up front helped my other effects do their job more cleanly and provides a good signal to my amp (I’m currently only using headphones). Live, I have used it at the end (going into power amp in) to cut the sub-lows from my amp, which otherwise tends to get a little boomy.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

I like mine at the end. It limits the chance to neuter your signal going into other pedals and is in better position to help with noise. YMMV.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

End of chain, unless you want your effects to produce tones in that range.
Dirk

 

[BtaylorTheRogue]

IMO, as late as possible. I have a chorus after mine for logistical reasons (space on my 16x32 pedaltrain is very scarce), but later in the game means a more even effect and better protection.

 

[baxter_x]

In the effect loop for me. More convenient but also, you don't have to care about anything else. You know whatever you plug in your amp, it will be filtered. Once it's set, just forget about it.

 

[jj.833]

The envelope filter is attack triggered (= the faster you attack the string, the more 'wah' you get)?
If so, then the placement of Hipass would matter soundwise, because cutting the lows would affect the attack. Try it before and after the envelope. On one of these sides the envelope will response 'more natural', so that would be the right one.
Apart from that, the placement of HPF will not affect your sound much. I would put it last in the chain, to save your amp from any unwanted ultralow rumbles that might theoretically generate anywhere. But if you had no amp issues (overheating, safe mode) till now, you don't have this problem anyway. HPF anywhere then.