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Where were you when Jaco died?

I was working at a record store in Austin, Sound Warehouse, I asked a customer why he was buying all Jaco stuff and he told me he had died, I was quite shocked and sad. When I got home later i listened to "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" and then all the other Jaco stuff I had, folks dropped by because they knew I was a fan and had a lot of recordings, soon had a house full of other musicians joining in the wake.
I find that I am sentimental about musicians that way, celebrating their music by pulling out all the records;Harry Chapin, John Entwistle, John Lennon, Joe Zawinul and many others.
 
At the time I'd never heard of Jaco Pastorius. Truth be told I heard of him first here on TB in 2006. I was 22 in '87 and desperately fending off my bassist friend who was singing the praise of Geddy Lee in all conceivable ways. Based off of hearing "Bastille Day" from "Caress of Steel" once I was convinced Rush was a Heavy Metal band, so I refused to listen.

These days I'm pretty well aware of both, but I listen to Rush a lot more than JP, but not so much for the bass playing as for the song writing and the emotions they convey.

In all honesty I have a hard time with most jazz. Not for the music, but for the audience. There's a very special culture that surrounds a lot of jazz fans where they seem to compete with each other in being most "in the know". There's a protocol of how you must nod knowingly to each other at the messianic messages from the revered performers, exhort "yeah" at precise moments in the solos and generally manifest profundity. Heaven forbid you just move your body in time with the music.

All genres have elements of this kind of behaviour, but a lot of jazz has always struck me as particularly intellectualizing.
 
HAHAHA!

I thought that may be a little confusing...it was this Pluto

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Imagine being a little guy and having this thing bearing down on you :( I can still see him when I close my eyes :crying:
 
HAHAHA!

I thought that may be a little confusing...it was this Pluto

pluto.jpg


Imagine being a little guy and having this thing bearing down on you :( I can still see him when I close my eyes :crying:

I think you may be onto something here......

I've seen Pluto in Florida. Several times as a matter of fact. Jaco was killed in Florida.....

Where was Pluto when Jaco died?!?!?
 
Not true at all.........Jaco transcends nothing in my book. I'm glad that he reached elevation for many, but ask someone who doesn't play bass or someone who enjoys listening to and buying music and chances are high they know nothing of him or what he did for his niche of bass playing. Again, I don't want to troll.....I just hate that after 25 years of playing bass I still feel that other players think I somehow "have" to like Jaco or "respect" him. I'll say it again, he threw his life away with drugs............I don't respect that...........people DO NOT have to suffer for their art........only other artists seem to agree while they try and figure out why their own art isn't at a level they want.........Jaco may be good at what he did, but I don't like it so I have nothing to gauge whether he was better than any other person. I respect those who like him though, you are a unwaivering bunch!!
It's absolutely true that in the light of this sort of stuff, personal opinion means nothing. The greatness of real art is in no way devalued in the slightest by any one person's dislike of it. It's just too far above that. I daresay that a few people weren't keen on Michelangelo's painting of the Sistine Chapel ceiling. So what? It's still a stunning achievement and Jaco's bass playing was a stunning achievement. Your opinion of it doesn't change that fact one iota.

It also sounds like you need to separate Jaco's mental health issues from his musical work. The former do nothing to diminish the contribution he made with the latter and comments about these are completely irrelevant when discussing his music.
 
I was riding on a tour bus finishing up a tour with John (Dukes of Hazzard) Schneider. We had just finished a show with Marie Osmond and it was the last leg of the tour I had started in May opening for Alabama when they were at their absolute peak. I had called Don Coffman a couple of days ago because I'd heard he was in the hospital from a mutual friend and was debating on whether to come down to Florida. Don called me the morning after he died with the news. Still a sad memory after 24 years.....
 
bassybill said:
I would not be the one to suggest even for one second that someone's inability to work out that fact should cast any doubt whatsoever on the validity of their opinion.

Funny that you guys think that anyone would actually watch the video! Maybe if I had watched it I would have known that it was a joke. I clicked on it and there was that slob stumbling around and I stopped it. Life is too short to waste watching a jazztard making noise. But I'm glad that the geeks from the Jaco fan club enjoyed a laugh. Have fun at the star trek convention!