Which Wireless System?

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by Lady Kayri, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. I've tried a search of the review section, and didn't find any reviews of wireless connections (instrument to amp). I'm looking for one at about $300 or less (least expensive one I've seen advertised was about $150.) I know some of you have used such systems and wondered if there are any recommendations - even if they're negatives ones (as in 'don't touch this system with a ten foot pole - that's how far it'll transmit successfully!' and so on!) Thanks for the advice...

  2. I've heard good stuff about the X2. Also, do a search on wireless in the Miscellaneous forum, there have been a ton of threads in there on this subject.
  3. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    X2 by all means.
  4. Thanks - found the previous threads as mentioned, sounds like the X2 will serve my needs... Pat
  5. butchblack

    butchblack Life is short. Do good. Find and do what you love.

    Jan 25, 2007
    Waltham Massachusetts
    I also use an X2. If you go with the stomp box version get a power supply for it (about $20) Go to Thomas distributing and get a charger and a couple 9.6V rechargeable batteries if you play out often as batteries add up quickly. Order an extra cable from Bayou cables, great products.
  6. kyral210


    Sep 14, 2007
    what about the Ashdown Freebass that comes out in a few weeks? It seems to have everything you could wish for.
  7. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    The Ashdown looks like any other wireless on the market to me, and its specs aren't all that impressive, to be quite honest. I realize it's a little unfair to judge it by specs alone, but the X2's specs blow it away.
  8. kyral210


    Sep 14, 2007
    How so? what part of the specs?
  9. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    50 hz freq response on the low end, which is kind of high for bass, and >90 db signal/noise ratio, which is blown away by the X2's SN ratio, which I believe is >117 db.
  10. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    Here's another vote for the X2 - I love my XDR-95...

    - georgestrings
  11. DavisP


    Jun 28, 2008
    Ive never used the X2, But I have the Freeport Sennhieser and it doesnt cut your tone too much, I tune in A though so it might be hard for me to notice. Its only 150$.
  12. Hi Guys,

    I´ve done a little Comparsion for those who allways say, that they would hear so enormous Differences between a Wireless System and an Instrument-Cable

    OK...Here we go:

    Bass: Squier 70 Vintage Modified Jazz Bass, both Pickups, Toneblend 20-25% open

    Played directly into my Low Budget Soundcard..so be patient.

    I´ve played the same simple Riff two Times with identical Settings. One Time with a Cordial Intsrument Cable with Neutrik Jacks, the other one I´ve played through a AKG WMS 40 Pro Flexx

    Wich is wich?

    A/B Comparision Wireless & Cable

    Maybe you´l hear a Difference, but is it as huge as some People say? I think not. I think it´s absolutely worth to go Wireless on Stage, because of more Mobility & Action....

    Studio is another Case. I think it´s certain, that we all use Cables in the Studio.
  13. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005

    Clips through a computer don't prove much, if anything - I've checked out a fair amount of wireless units for bass, and nearly all of them gave more of a loss than I was willing to live with... Now, maybe you're OK with settling with that - but I'm not, and with the X2, I haven't had to "settle" for a lesser sound in order to go wireless...

    As for recording - I recently recorded using the DI from my X2, and it went to tape very, very well - when all's done, I'll post some clips and let you judge for yourself...

    - georgestrings
  14. Coelho


    May 10, 2006
    Astoria, NY
    first run is cable, second run is the wireless, with a big loss on low end frequencies.
  15. love my X2 handles my 5 string great. Handles low end very well, down to 10 hz. lots of gigs on it and no problems.
  16. Jazzdogg

    Jazzdogg Less barking, more wagging!

    Jul 29, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    +1 I've been VERY satisfied with my X2, which I use with a passive PBass and an active 5-string.

    In addition to the great fidelity, my X2 enables me to walk throughout a venue during sound check; I haven't experienced any drop-outs so far.
  17. SnorLars


    Nov 22, 2006
    It hurts when u guys elevate the X2.
    Can't get it here in EU and we don't have an equivalent.
    Only wireless with similar specs are Shure which costs $1600. :meh:
    I had my hopes in the Ashdown Freebass but it cuts the lows a bit.
  18. Thomcat


    Jan 23, 2002
    There should be one option available. The Sabine SWM7000 series wireless is supposed to be available worldwide. It uses a digital technology similar to (but different from) the X2 to work in the 2.4 GHz band, same as WiFi, which is available in virtually every developed country. I know this includes all of the EU. The Sabine covers the same 20 to 20K audio frequency range with no companders, just like the X2.

    The Sabine even offers 70 channels vs. the 5 that the X2 offers. It is pricier, but averages just less than $1000 USD here in the States, so it shouldn't be too much more in the EU, given the strength of the Euro right now.

    Check into it. At least it is another option.

  19. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Why couldn't you get an X2 in Europe? Line 6 owns them now so it shouldn't be hard, unless there's some wireless law preventing it.

    The Sabine, huh? Never heard of it, but it looks very interesting. Still, for the price, the X2 is hard to beat.
  20. fokof

    fokof One day ,I'll be in the future

    Mar 16, 2007
    It's not only the sound , it's also the dynamics that are lost in any wireless systems.

    You want opinions , I'll give you mine ; I'd say stick to a cable , it's cheaper , trouble-less , sound will ALWAYS be better.
    The only advantage I see in a wireless is if you do acrobatic stuff or gig on 300' foot stages and use all the space you have.