What I find incredible about the Rig Of Doom (that I never see or hear any comments about) is that the whole thing is powered by McIntosh amps. Holy Batman.
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Who has the most Hellishly Obnoxious rig?
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What I find incredible about the Rig Of Doom (that I never see or hear any comments about) is that the whole thing is powered by McIntosh amps. Holy Batman.
I'm a bit reluctant to do a build thread because I don't know what information is copyrighted, but I'll post the finished product. I'm building one at a time due to cost and availability of workspace. Most of the modifications I am doing are using a B&C woofer (TS parameters within specs of the design of the cab, but has lower frequency response that I value as a 5/6 stringer), using an Eminence APT 200 tweeter on a 90 x 90 biracial horn (mainly because I already had a pair laying around), added extra bracing inside the cabinet (stiffness is better for driver performance and loss of internal volume can be made up for by acoustic stuffing), and using a stronger glue for all joints then sealing as opposed to an expanding polyurethane adhesive (literally the weakest adhesive for woodworking, I've used the glue I have to repair a broken headstock so I know it is STRONG).
I may buy pre-assembled crossovers due to a few of the parts I need to make the ones in his design being out of stock. I won't call adding an L pad a modification as it's an optional accessory included in the original plans.
The BFM forum is not very helpful: I recall asking for a suggestion for an 8 ohm 3 way cabinet and got tons of suggestions for 2 way cabs and criticism for only wanting a specific impedance (which I need to keep all my gear compatible with each other) and accusations about not knowing how to impedance match (I've been impedance matching for 20 years). Everyone on the forum acts like the plans are Holy Writ then you buy a set of plans and they state repeatedly that the dimensions aren't super critical, as long as you can stay reasonably close. It even says to mount the tweeter wherever it fits, but for best results, as high up on the front baffle as "practical." That forum almost drove me away, if it hadn't been for actual response curves where I could gather the data I needed without having to talk to anybody, I wouldn't have bothered. D.B. Keele and John Inlow can both do the same thing Bill can, although they may differ slightly in execution. Having bought John's plans for his folded horn sub, I would easily put it against a Tuba 48. I would even put a vertically stacked pair of John's compression driven 100Hz mid horns on the same level as a Meyer MSL-3 if you matched a high quality CD tweeter to it.
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Apparently offending everyone by cracking jokes about a band and a guitar rig that is IN MY VIEW utterly ridiculous.
Job well done then, apparently. Always best to own it though.
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There just weren't that many viable options back then. I saw the Wall in action a few times, IME sound quality was very inconsistent from venue to venue and ranged from majorly sucky to utterly sublime. Not unlike the Dead themselves, and in both cases the vocals were pretty much the crux of the biscuit.
Sunn O))) might beg to differ...
Maybe not hellish enough, but since Wata is my secret girlfriend(so secret that she doesn't even know it
)I have to give a shout out to Boris....BTW, 60 is firmly in my rearview mirror, and I love those guys, seen them twice. The loudest show I've ever attended was My Bloody Valentine, in the early 90's.
Hmm, Relapse Records( Relapse Records - Wikipedia )has been around for almost 30 years, Alternative Tentacles, home of the Dead Kennedys( Alternative Tentacles - Wikipedia )for almost 40. Both substantial indie labels in their respective fields. Does a band have to be on a dinosaur major label to have any legitimacy?
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Ah. Playing 120 max capacity venues. I guess that passes for "touring" these days.
I think a lot of us would be happy with a 120 ticket sale crowd these days.
It’s definitely shrunk a lot since the 500 patron limit “rock ballroom” days way back in the 70s - and early 80s. (Assuming they hadn’t already been converted to discos by then.)
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Probably the closest I ever had was a rig I had for my Ric 4001 back in the 70’s. I had a SVT powering an Ampeg 2-15 V-4B reflex cab for my neck pick up, and a Hiwatt 100 powering a Hiwatt 4-12 cab. Keep in mind, I was playing in a power trio at the time with no PA support. Never could stand to have my Hiwatt rig up over 2.5. Anything over that was painful.
My friend had something back in high school called a "T-Stack" which was a full size, god-knows-how-many hundreds of watts tube head, teetering on a vertical 2x10 cab. The precarious perching really tied the whole thing together.
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If I put all my gig-able gear together it would not be very impressive, a 1x15, a 4x10, a 2x10 stacked up and driven by a couple of GK amps, MB500 and 800RB, or maybe a Randall RB2000. Perhaps one day I'll pull it all out of the garage and experiment.
I've seen this picture bandied about and was told it was a Gene Simmons rig.
I think it would be fun to own this rig, Fender 400.
Here's a great article about the Grateful Dead's "Wall Of Sound"... Link Removed
Then there's always this monstrosity.
Thanks for letting me ramble. I've got to go over a few tunes before heading out to my gig tonight. Everyone be safe during this holiday season.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
If I put all my gig-able gear together it would not be very impressive, a 1x15, a 4x10, a 2x10 stacked up and driven by a couple of GK amps, MB500 and 800RB, or maybe a Randall RB2000. Perhaps one day I'll pull it all out of the garage and experiment.
I've seen this picture bandied about and was told it was a Gene Simmons rig.
I think it would be fun to own this rig, Fender 400.
Here's a great article about the Grateful Dead's "Wall Of Sound"... Link Removed
Then there's always this monstrosity.
Thanks for letting me ramble. I've got to go over a few tunes before heading out to my gig tonight. Everyone be safe during this holiday season.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
Sunn O))) might beg to differ...
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Maybe not hellish enough, but since Wata is my secret girlfriend(so secret that she doesn't even know it
BTW, 60 is firmly in my rearview mirror, and I love those guys, seen them twice. The loudest show I've ever attended was My Bloody Valentine, in the early 90's.
Hmm, Relapse Records( Relapse Records - Wikipedia )has been around for almost 30 years, Alternative Tentacles, home of the Dead Kennedys( Alternative Tentacles - Wikipedia )for almost 40. Both substantial indie labels in their respective fields. Does a band have to be on a dinosaur major label to have any legitimacy?
Maybe not a dinosaur label but one that sells some records? I know this is a cliche, but that recording literally is just noise. What's to see?
Still no choad hammer....ok. Here is......CHOADHAMMER!
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I am old enough to be my own grandfather.
That 4x10 TE cab is the most beautiful sounding cab I have ever heard. As beautiful sounding as heavy.
