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Who Sets the TEMPO

I'm probably wrong. Playing over 40 years but that means nothing. I always felt the DRUMMER set and kept the tempo in line and the BASS set the groove. I'm in a yuppie band and the drummer is always consoling me to keep the tunes from running amok; I tell him it's his job. Any advice?

Time is everyone's job, period. Whoever counts the tune in is setting the tempo, but it is the entire band's job to keep it there. Not just the drummer.
 
I'm probably wrong. Playing over 40 years but that means nothing. I always felt the DRUMMER set and kept the tempo in line and the BASS set the groove. I'm in a yuppie band and the drummer is always consoling me to keep the tunes from running amok; I tell him it's his job. Any advice?
I totally agree with you. The drummer sets the fundamental of the song. Unfortunately, human beings are not digital machines and don't possess an inherent, precise "click track". You will need to make necessary adjustments occasionally in order to establish a cohesiveness. However, the longer you play with a drummer, the more you guys should start to "feel" each other. If and when this happens, it's a feeling like no other. You guys have then become ONE! And everyone else in the band benefits from it.
 
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I only work with steady drummers, the rest are shown the door early. I still count in most of the songs because I just have a really good memory for such things. That's setting the tempo. Keeping the tempo is everyones responsibility. I play the blues and we mess with the tempo all the time, rushing adds tension, and urgency, dragging gives a lazy groove. Blues bands can't play with a click.
 
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I'm probably wrong. Playing over 40 years but that means nothing. I always felt the DRUMMER set and kept the tempo in line and the BASS set the groove. I'm in a yuppie band and the drummer is always consoling me to keep the tunes from running amok; I tell him it's his job. Any advice?

The song itself sets the groove, and tempo.
 
In every band I've played in, drummer sets the tempo by counting it in, EVEN if someone else starts" the song.
In bands where the singer (for example) doesn't have IEM's and can't hear a click, I want the drummer counting off and setting tempo on the hat.
Then, it's up to everyone to stay with the drummer.
As mentioned, if the drummer drags/speeds up, there's not much one can do but go with the flow.

Sure, not every drummer nails the starting tempo, so there are ways that other members can lead him to the correct tempo before he starts.
This is pretty much how it's been in most bands for me as well. But not every band has a good drummer who can feel the correct tempo for each song before it starts. As a singer, I have had quite a few experiences with drummers who would rush the count and then I find myself losing breath and phrasing things in a weird way because the tempo was rushed. So I won't play with drummers who do that, as a general rule, and if I have to for some reason, I will count off the songs that I sing.
 
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Sure there is. If you notice the drummer speeding up, don't go with him. It is difficult but it can be done.

It depends on the drummer. Some actually listen to what's going on and stay alert for visual cues, while others...not so much. Still, the loudest guy wins. Even if you don't go with him, chances are everybody else has already adjusted to the drummer's tempo.
 
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Who Sets the TEMPO

It depends on the genre of music who sets the tempo, the pulse, and the groove, but it's everyone's responsibility to keep time and not rush or drag.

I'm probably wrong. Playing over 40 years but that means nothing. I always felt the DRUMMER set and kept the tempo in line and the BASS set the groove. I'm in a yuppie band and the drummer is always consoling me to keep the tunes from running amok; I tell him it's his job. Any advice?

Are you rushing time and speeding up? If you are, there isn't much your drummer can do about that. My advice - both of you get in the woodshed and break out the metronome, and see what happens.
 
I'm probably wrong. Playing over 40 years but that means nothing. I always felt the DRUMMER set and kept the tempo in line and the BASS set the groove. I'm in a yuppie band and the drummer is always consoling me to keep the tunes from running amok; I tell him it's his job. Any advice?

Drummers responsibility!!!
I played with a bad drummer awhile ago with horrible meter! either dragging or speeding up! so frustrating!

Did you ever try to speed up or slow down a drummer while playing? its like running in thick mud, or quick sand. drummers with bad tempo SUCK, its the worst. literally an uphill battle! I've heard of A drummer using a metronome with a blinking light to help keep time, that might help. if set on the floor under the ride cymbalOR FLOOR TOM, where both of you can see it. anyway, I always thought the bass locked TO the drums, not the other way around!
 
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