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Why do they never get it right? (Epi Casady content)

#102
I have held vintage gold top LP's and to my eyes and even hands the gold Epi does not quite get there. Close but no cigar. That is just my experienced opinion. Could be because the paint is no where near the original formulation + aging. Might be in 20 more years but I would bet hard cash that different paints age differently.
So how could a modern Epi JC in gold even be compared to a vintage aged instrument when the paint formulations are not even made with the same stuff?
 
#104
korean made modern guitars are ...."finished in hard, quick-to-apply polyester resin rather than the traditional nitro-cellulose lacquer used by Gibson. Nitro-cellulose lacquers are applied very thinly, and as a result, do not impede the resonance of the instrument as much as resin finishes do. Nitro-cellulose, being a solvent-based lacquer, requires many more very thin coats, resulting in a lighter thinner finish because of much more hand-applied cutting and polishing. It is therefore much more time-consuming and consequently expensive to apply. Resin finishes are much quicker and cheaper to apply. These particular budget considerations, along with others such as plastic nuts and cheaper hardware and pickups, allow for a more affordable instrument."

quoted From the "internet" for what it is worth.
 
#105
I plugged it in at soundcheck out of curiosity and immediately our live sound technician came over the monitors asking, 'What bass is that? It sounds great!' Jack Casady models have been an integral part of my sound, live and in studio since. I asked Epiphone to build me one and paint it in one of my favorite color combos, Silverburst and the results are simply stunning! I could go on but what you really need to do is get to your local retailer and play one today! They look and sound like no other."
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mmmhh... I suspect you're right: this Tom McDonald is the originator of the Silverburst. This Casady bass is just growing on me!!!! Would I find a sunburst I would snatch it in a split second, I guess.

"No more basses, please" that is what the wall in my living room says everytime I come home...

:rolleyes:
 
#107
mongo2 said:
The origianls were also available in tobacco 'burst.
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Yep true but I NEVER said any of the modern finishes are "just like" the Vintage finishes So I clarified the missinformation.

Ever time I make some comment about how I like the Build Quality, Finish or Otherwise on my specific instrument a particular individual feels compelled to contradict me without any kind of support for his/her argument.

So for the sake of understanding and Truth I split the hair and support my argument.

For more truth:
You are more than welcome to go back and see I am not just being paranoid. Somebody has a complex or issue of some kind and feels compelled to misinform and hate.
I don't lie down for just anyone. So I defend my prior statements.
Especially when the person who comes to fight is unarmed. Which, Unfortunately for me, makes it hard to resist the battle of wits. AS my armament is limited as well.

To that "special" specific person:

You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.
Quoted from "your" reference of choice
Please use your "ignore" button on me, as you earlier stated you would.
 
#108
Avezzano said:
"No more basses, please" that is what the wall in my living room says everytime I come home...

:rolleyes:
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Well if you would stop enabling my G.A.S. with your pics and suggestions My Walls and Closets and Extra Bedroom would be safe. I stopped counting at about 30 instruments not including associated fun stuff.

I dont mind the Silver Burst a bit. The other possible finish combinations that would be cool is endless.

so this is for you:
 

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#111
Wouldn't you like to see a JC in Cola Brown?

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Ok, so it's a first gen Artcore with a set of JC electronics . But it sure looks and sounds good!

I bought this bass almost entirely based on the prettiness of the bass when GC was closing them out. Couldn't get a sound I liked out of the stock pickup, but managed to buy a JC setup from a great TB builder when they upgraded to a Darkstar. Later added a set of Ultralight Clovers.

Took this bass from a fun knockaround to a real vintage style looker whose sound got it a place in my stage rotation.
 
#112
if you are talking about the pic right above here, no it is not: it is the famous Guild Starfire; recently reissued by Fender as De Armond. If you are referring to the original post, instead, yes: we talk about the Casady signature...

Dig this beautiful Gibson here below side by side with a Vox Teardrop...

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#117
Barrblues said:
korean made modern guitars are ...."finished in hard, quick-to-apply polyester resin rather than the traditional nitro-cellulose lacquer used by Gibson. Nitro-cellulose lacquers are applied very thinly, and as a result, do not impede the resonance of the instrument as much as resin finishes do. Nitro-cellulose, being a solvent-based lacquer, requires many more very thin coats, resulting in a lighter thinner finish because of much more hand-applied cutting and polishing. It is therefore much more time-consuming and consequently expensive to apply. Resin finishes are much quicker and cheaper to apply. These particular budget considerations, along with others such as plastic nuts and cheaper hardware and pickups, allow for a more affordable instrument."

quoted From the "internet" for what it is worth.
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The question of how much the type of finish -- nitro vs. other kinds of lacquer vs. poly, etc. -- affects the tone of an instrument has been debated endlessly, but I think the debate is largely confined to solidbody instruments. I doubt it has much if any effect on the tone of hollowbody instruments.

I don't claim any particular expertise on this, though, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong....
 
#118
I doubt it has much if any effect on the tone of hollowbody instruments.
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Lobster11 The contrary is supposed to be true, actually! Myth is still around about Antonio Stradivari and his superb violins that were supposed to perform much better than his competitors' products probably due to his own painting, the formula of which he always kept jealously secret!

But this is very probably all a bunch of bs anyway: in a recent blind test, (I've read this somewhere on the newspaper last year or so) they had a panel of long experience and skilled violinists; they gave them to play something like 6 violins ranging from 100.000 euro or more, mixed with fresh from factory standard instruments (much lower cost, obviously) without telling them which is which: in the end they could not actually tell anything significant; very often they were enthusiast by a new 500 euro violin. Go figure...

;)

EDIT: here it is to you; read, it's enlightening!!! (So... you are right, after all! The painting seem to have NO effect whatsoever on the performance of an instrument...)

:rolleyes:

Blind test on violins
 
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#119
I don't know how I missed this thread until now, but I thought the same thing when I first saw the silverburst...WHY???

I was not even aware that it had been offered in a sunburst at the time. I have been trying to overcome the urge to get one, and I was leaning toward the black until I saw the sunburst....sure hope one doesn't show up available any time soon, I am a weak man.
 

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