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I'll echo that music began to suck when people stopped buying it. As much as people seem to hate on producers, they can turn coal into diamonds. Hell, they were smart enough to also hire great studio musicians, which allowed Pino to make a bunch of 80's pop have sweet bass parts.
The only music that sells is basically songs that are all chorus.
The only music that sells is basically songs that are all chorus.
It’s a personal taste thing. Intellectually I can appreciate Prince’s skill but he generally just doesn’t move me. Maybe that’s the root of all this discussion.
Right, then maybe I'm missing the point of this thread. Music isn't worse, it's just different and anyone who claims it's worse is just old.
Take a look at the pop charts from the 50s, 60s. In 1968 "Yummy, yummy, yummy" was #4 on the US pop chart. Now if that isn't major suckage I don't know what is! I could probably name a hundred more bad pop songs from that era.
50 years later & you still remember the 1910 Fruitgum Co.
It would appear they succeeded.
It would appear they succeeded.
OK...by your analysis, I'm "old".
I do trust my own ears, though.
Will the stuff that is "just different" stand the test of time. We'll see (not me, though, 'cause I'm "old").
they played the same crap every 15 minutes on AM pop radio. And I gotta ask, succeeded at what exactly?50 years later & you still remember the 1910 Fruitgum Co.
It would appear they succeeded.
Music was good when you were young because:
1) You spent more money at concerts and on records than your parents. So the artists made music you liked.
2) If your parents hated it, it got bonus points from you. Artists also worked to achieve this.
Music isn't good now because:
1) Your kids spend more money at concerts and on records (downloads) than you. So the artists make music they like.
2) If you hate it, it gets bonus points from your kids. Artists also work to achieve this.
1) You spent more money at concerts and on records than your parents. So the artists made music you liked.
2) If your parents hated it, it got bonus points from you. Artists also worked to achieve this.
Music isn't good now because:
1) Your kids spend more money at concerts and on records (downloads) than you. So the artists make music they like.
2) If you hate it, it gets bonus points from your kids. Artists also work to achieve this.
I don't agree with the "all new music is rubbish" theory. You've got to accept that the commercial radio demographic is probably not us. I gave up commercial radio years ago. In Australia, with the exception of one or two private/government/internet stations, the same short list of forgettable songs is played by the short list of low IQ DJ's. Fortunately there's still plenty of good music available to download if you know where to look, and that's where recommendations from bass forums/sites come in
The oldest known writings seem to depict music as a gift to humanity from her creator. Popular music has been shedding its musical aspects since before the beginning of radio days. The American music industry adopted an informal standard of A4 = 440 Hz in 1926. The ancient Tibetan healing powers of 432 Hz, called ‘Scientific Tuning’ because of its correlations with mathematics, nature and the universe, had finally been ousted by the initial efforts of the invasive 26th Egyptian dynasty. With a slight increase in frequency, to make the same songs sound a little brighter, how many would have perceived a detrimental change in human music?
Going back to the beginning of consumer electronic recording in the 1930’s, most of the Top Ten radio hits had my favorite musical aspect; Harmony (not human voices, but rather chromaticism~ as in nature). When the background chord structure uses all twelve notes, the potential melodies are naturally free. Along with downsizing bands, for production profits, producers started promoting simplified harmony. By the 1950’s, most of the hits had adopted a three chord (single key) structure. A gifted soloist will always be able to play all twelve notes over a confined harmonic structure, but the song has lost most of its ability to emotionally move me.
Today, hit songs require neither harmony nor melody. As long as there’s still a danceable beat, it can sell. So many of these rhythm tracks are built using sequenced electronic sounds, that the rhythm itself lacks a continuous (live) development. If a person is immune to lyrics, then any reciprocating machine can produce an equally valid composition.
In the early days, the top ten hits were determined by public vote. Not a fair version, but different than using ‘programmers’ to determine popular songs. As a boy, I was always able to predict the number one song of the year. Imagine my surprise on New Year’s Eve of 1978 when WLS of Chicago didn’t announce Starbuck’s hit as number one!
If music can actually strengthen our defenses and bolster our life, then why would the powers that be want to remove this from our reach?
"A commitment to The truth never depends upon its revelations".
(self-defined truth)
Going back to the beginning of consumer electronic recording in the 1930’s, most of the Top Ten radio hits had my favorite musical aspect; Harmony (not human voices, but rather chromaticism~ as in nature). When the background chord structure uses all twelve notes, the potential melodies are naturally free. Along with downsizing bands, for production profits, producers started promoting simplified harmony. By the 1950’s, most of the hits had adopted a three chord (single key) structure. A gifted soloist will always be able to play all twelve notes over a confined harmonic structure, but the song has lost most of its ability to emotionally move me.
Today, hit songs require neither harmony nor melody. As long as there’s still a danceable beat, it can sell. So many of these rhythm tracks are built using sequenced electronic sounds, that the rhythm itself lacks a continuous (live) development. If a person is immune to lyrics, then any reciprocating machine can produce an equally valid composition.
In the early days, the top ten hits were determined by public vote. Not a fair version, but different than using ‘programmers’ to determine popular songs. As a boy, I was always able to predict the number one song of the year. Imagine my surprise on New Year’s Eve of 1978 when WLS of Chicago didn’t announce Starbuck’s hit as number one!
If music can actually strengthen our defenses and bolster our life, then why would the powers that be want to remove this from our reach?
"A commitment to The truth never depends upon its revelations".
(self-defined truth)
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Part of it is that the songs that will be with us years later are not the biggest hits at the time. Go back to the Billboard charts any time in the 60s and 70s - you will cringe at a lot of what you see.
