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Why iPhone and not Android?

#61
There's two things that nobody has mentioned that are big deals for me, and a large part of the reason I favour Apple devices.

Firstly, the build quality. I'm sorry, but Apple's Gorilla Glass and aluminium construction looks and feels way nicer than the cheap shiny plastic that most Android phones are made of. the industrial design is also much better than any of its competitors. The iPhone feels more like a quality, well-made product and is aesthetically much more pleasing than any Android device I've seen.

And secondly, there's the accessory and peripheral ecosystem. There are far more Apple-tailored accessories out there - speaker docks, cases, keyboards, even music gear like audio interfaces, microphones and pedalboards.

Speaking of music and audio, and being that this is a music forum, there are far more useful music apps for the iPhone and iPad - the Android OS has an I/O issue that results in very bad audio latency, hence the reason why there's pretty much no worthwhile recording or synthesis software for Android - certainly nothing that compares to Garageband or any of the Korg synthesis apps for iOS.
 
#62
Generally speaking, Androids can do 4g, have mich faster processing power, replaceable batteries and upgradeable storage. An open app market with much more competition... Otoh iPhones tend to be easier to use for most people. Androids have never felt awkward to me though... My brother is a huge android geek because he works for verizon shooting most of their internal promos, so I've picked up a little bit from him
 
#64
I use ISyncR for copying my Itunes library to my Android over my wireless network. Basically, I have it setup to sync every hour so when I'm home, it will check for any playlist changes and automatically copy new songs to my phone without any need for my interaction. It also copies pictures and video up to my pc and I can choose to delete the pics and video from the phone after upload. No need to plug in to my PC anymore. And if I choose to sync the "Recently added" playlist, whenever anyone downloads a new song, it will automatically copy to my phone.

I was using Winamp on my Android for a while until I found PowerAmp. I like Poweramp a lot better and it blows Android's player away.
 
#65
Rusty Chainsaw said:
I'm sorry, but Apple's Gorilla Glass......
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We all know how much you love your Apple products, but let's stick to the facts here, OK?

It is not Apple's Gorilla Glass altough Steve Jobs can be somewhat credited with reviving the failed Corning product. Also of note is that most all smartphones today use it, as well as tablets, TV's, and laptops. According to the GG website, 750,000,000 devices use their product.

-Mike
 
#66
DaveLS said:
I use ISyncR for copying my Itunes library to my Android over my wireless network. Basically, I have it setup to sync every hour so when I'm home, it will check for any playlist changes and automatically copy new songs to my phone without any need for my interaction. It also copies pictures and video up to my pc and I can choose to delete the pics and video from the phone after upload. No need to plug in to my PC anymore. And if I choose to sync the "Recently added" playlist, whenever anyone downloads a new song, it will automatically copy to my phone.

I was using Winamp on my Android for a while until I found PowerAmp. I like Poweramp a lot better and it blows Android's player away.
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One more "IPhone-Like" app I use is Remote For ITunes. You can control Itunes playing on your computer from your phone. I always have my phone close by in the house so I always have the remote for Itunes handy, not to mention a remote control app for my Verizon Fios equipped TV.
 
#68
MJ5150 said:
We all know how much you love your Apple products, but let's stick to the facts here, OK?

It is not Apple's Gorilla Glass altough Steve Jobs can be somewhat credited with reviving the failed Corning product. Also of note is that most all smartphones today use it, as well as tablets, TV's, and laptops. According to the GG website, 750,000,000 devices use their product.

-Mike
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I think you misunderstand. I know Gorilla Glass isn't an Apple product and I wasn't saying it was. But they use it, and that their industrial design, using a combination of Gorilla Glass and aluminium, is far nicer than any competing phone. It's just a much nicer "object".

For what it's worth, I didn't like the earlier iPhones much, with their plastic backs. And also, for what it's worth, I also own a Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc Android phone (unlocked for travelling), so I know both sides of the argument well.
 
#69
I have a phone that's paid for by my university department...an HTC EVO. It's running the latest Droid OS and it has performed very well for me. I'm the director of a tech unit and I can pretty much get any IT/phone/tablet I want, and I'm doing fine with Droid units. (Including a Xoom tablet.)

The Apple model doesn't work well because of the need to pay as you go for apps, music and other stuff. I don't want to spend my time justifying those little purchases, each of which requires a purchase request from me to go through the university fiscal system.

In 2+ years of using a Droid, I think I've bought 2 apps - everything else I have downloaded has been free and the music has been ripped from a CD. With all the free apps I can download, install, and if it doesn't work, nuke it and try another app. The Droid app store is miles deep and a big chunk of it is free.

And to be frank, I am starting to view Apple as the Evil Empire, not MS. Apple wants to control your apps, your access to functionality by requiring pre-approval of apps, wants to charge you for everything, and seemingly wants $30 for every single adapter that connects the non-standard connectors on their computers to the devices that the rest of the world uses. Apple laptops in classrooms are a huge pain in the butt due to their insistence on using non-standard connectors.

I know iPhones and Macs have many strong points, so this is not a "Mac vs. PC" post. It's just an expression of my experiences.
 
#70
Great discussion, about to make the leap to Droid based on the conversations and let Chrome "shine". HTC Galaxy X seems to be safe choice.

Will keep my iPad2 as is, synced with a blue tooth friendly Dell laptop.

Would love to make a call from a pad device and stop carrying around all three.
 
#71
With all the free apps I can download, install, and if it doesn't work, nuke it and try another app. The Droid app store is miles deep and a big chunk of it is free.
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As are a ton of the apps on the Apple App store. The difference being you can be reasonably certain Apple approved apps aren't going to steal your contact list and other personal information and they aren't going to brick your phone.

and the music has been ripped from a CD.
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Something you can easily do with any Apple product as well.

and seemingly wants $30 for every single adapter that connects the non-standard connectors on their computers to the devices that the rest of the world uses. Apple laptops in classrooms are a huge pain in the butt due to their insistence on using non-standard connectors.
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Like what non-Standard connectors? The Apple Dock Connector couldn't be more of a standard. A lot of those connectors seem non-standard because they haven't made their way into cheap PC's *yet. Firewire was once a non-standard Apple connector. Display port and Thunderbolt are major advances in technology that just haven't made their way to the $399 Toshiba laptop just yet but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be.
 
#73
I've had an iOS, Android and now a phone with the newest windows os.

They all do the same basic stuff. Its a phone and PDA. If I have data its even a decent in town GPS.

App availability is a plus... If your into that.

Pick your os first Then think about hardware/phone.

My Android phone was a galaxyS and later a mobile comet. The galaxy s had the Samsung interface and it got buggy after I started installing apps. The comet was just vanilla android and I never had an issue. Not all android phones have the same user interface. An HTC phone will look and feel a little different than a Samsung. If you go android... Plain android is the way to go.

IMO... windows phone and ios seem much much more stable... I hands down prefer the windows phone platform. Very well designed...

But here's what sold me on windows... Xbox live integration... And I use my Xbox for my entertainment... And I can use my phone as a remote... Its the little things!
 
#74
fisticuffs said:
Like what non-Standard connectors? The Apple Dock Connector couldn't be more of a standard. A lot of those connectors seem non-standard because they haven't made their way into cheap PC's *yet. Firewire was once a non-standard Apple connector. Display port and Thunderbolt are major advances in technology that just haven't made their way to the $399 Toshiba laptop just yet but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be.
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Sorry, on the computer side, asserting that a device with roughly 15% of the market has "standard connectors" because "A lot of those connectors seem non-standard because they haven't made their way into cheap PC's *yet...." is a transparently false argument. "Cheap PCs" SET the standards for computers.

Standards are set either by actions of a oversight committee or by popularity in the marketplace. In terms of computers, PC-type connectors ARE the standards of the world, as determined by the fact that they are the vast majority of everything out there.

A VGA connector is THE standard way to connect a laptop to a lectern. Macs don't have them, they charge you $30 for the adapter.

Example:
A Macbook Air doesn't have a single connector on it that's compatible with the standards created by PC laptops. I know - a couple of our faculty wanted to use them for presentations in classrooms and couldn't do it. For ports the Air has a "Thunderbolt", a USB-A and a "Magsafe" connector - period. The Thunderbolt" port (NOT a standard of anything anywhere except in Mac-land) requires a $30 adapter to talk to anything. It's a freakin' joke to try and present an image on a data projector unless the owner wants to shell out for a stack of connectors...which are already built into just about every PC laptop and cheap-o netbook.

Now, when it comes to portable music players, iPods are definitely setting the standards! Darn near every device you can name comes with an iPod adapter, and those are consistent within the brand. Sales have made iPods the dominant, therefore "standard-setting" device in that category.

Tablets? Probably going the direction of the iPad. They seem to be the single largest selling device, and the Droid units on the market have the darndest mess of connectors you've ever seen. I expect the iPad to be the standard setter for tablets.

BUT - the thread was about phones, right?

Phones? Well, connector-wise, it's still a mess. There are a lot more Droid phones than iPhones out there, and some of those Droid phones use different things, but it appears that the Micro-USB has the lead as an emerging "standard". ...but not the iPhone. That has a proprietary 30-pin connector. I think it's going to be a while before the dust settles on that front, but my best bet is that there will be two sets of connector "standards", one for everyone else and one for Apple.

I'm NOT against Apple or Mac. I'm just pointing out that what Apple does is only a "standard" for Apple.
 
#75
Pilgrim said:
Sorry, on the computer side, asserting that a device with roughly 15% of the market has "standard connectors" because "A lot of those connectors seem non-standard because they haven't made their way into cheap PC's *yet...." is a transparently false argument. "Cheap PCs" SET the standards for computers.

Standards are set either by actions of a oversight committee or by popularity in the marketplace. In terms of computers, PC-type connectors ARE the standards of the world, as determined by the fact that they are the vast majority of everything out there.

A VGA connector is THE standard way to connect a laptop to a lectern. Macs don't have them, they charge you $30 for the adapter.

Example:
A Macbook Air doesn't have a single connector on it that's compatible with the standards created by PC laptops. I know - a couple of our faculty wanted to use them for presentations in classrooms and couldn't do it. For ports the Air has a "Thunderbolt", a USB-A and a "Magsafe" connector - period. The Thunderbolt" port (NOT a standard of anything anywhere except in Mac-land) requires a $30 adapter to talk to anything. It's a freakin' joke to try and present an image on a data projector unless the owner wants to shell out for a stack of connectors...which are already built into just about every PC laptop and cheap-o netbook.

Now, when it comes to portable music players, iPods are definitely setting the standards! Darn near every device you can name comes with an iPod adapter, and those are consistent within the brand. Sales have made iPods the dominant, therefore "standard-setting" device in that category.

Tablets? Probably going the direction of the iPad. They seem to be the single largest selling device, and the Droid units on the market have the darndest mess of connectors you've ever seen. I expect the iPad to be the standard setter for tablets.

BUT - the thread was about phones, right?

Phones? Well, connector-wise, it's still a mess. There are a lot more Droid phones than iPhones out there, and some of those Droid phones use different things, but it appears that the Micro-USB has the lead as an emerging "standard". ...but not the iPhone. That has a proprietary 30-pin connector. I think it's going to be a while before the dust settles on that front, but my best bet is that there will be two sets of connector "standards", one for everyone else and one for Apple.

I'm NOT against Apple or Mac. I'm just pointing out that what Apple does is only a "standard" for Apple.
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My father in law just bought a brand new Dell, top of the line, and it didn't have a VGA either, it only has a miniDVI, just like the MacBook Pro. The advantage of that is that you can make the laptop smaller and with a simple connector you can connect to any other type of display.

lowsound
 
#76
I've had a Samsung Galaxy 2S for about seven months now. I like it so far. I've put some very cool apps on it--most of them free, but some had a nominal cost. Some of my favorites are Cam Scanner (full version), DropBox, Compass, Chordbot, Expensify, FlightAware, Geocaching, Netflix, SoundHound, Out of Milk, TuneIn, Torque Pro, Wifi Analyzer, and Wolfram Alpha. I like to play around with tech things and figure out what I can get into and use, so that usually precludes Apple products (except for my iPod).
 
#80
fisticuffs said:
Firewire was once a non-standard Apple connector. Display port and Thunderbolt are major advances in technology that just haven't made their way to the $399 Toshiba laptop just yet but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be.
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It depends a lot on who's making 3rd party peripherals that use the ports. Backwards compatibility carries a lot of weight compared to a transfer rate on something like IEEE data transfer interfaces or USB variants. Thunderbolt is twice as fast as USB 3.0, but with how many low-speed devices work on USB 2.0 already, you will probably see more 3.0 ports on PCs than Thunderbolts. Most of the public knows what the port for a thumb drive (usb flash drive) looks like, whereas a thunderbolt port might be a bit more elusive to spot for the average joe. When I sold an external hard drive or wireless usb adapter to someone and simply said "You'll plug it into the same kind of port that you use for a thumb drive" it was much less daunting for the consumer.

I think it gives us plenty of room to grow...but the transfer rate will only go as fast as the peripheral or component and run, which might take a while for them to catch up to the fast new ports like 3.0 and t-bolt. That having been said, when I get a new mobo for my PC, it's gonna have both and I'm running my OCZ vertex 2 on a t-bolt external enclosure :hyper:
 

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