Why is it called "bolt on neck" when they all use...

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by longfinger, Sep 20, 2017.


  1. Screw-on neck, yes, sign me up.

    16 vote(s)
    7.6%
  2. Bolt-on sounds better, even though they are screws..

    99 vote(s)
    46.9%
  3. What's the difference again between a screw and a bolt?

    12 vote(s)
    5.7%
  4. Less "talk bass" more "play bass".

    84 vote(s)
    39.8%
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  2. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses
    Sorry to do this right out of the gate, but....

    bolt1
    bōlt/
    noun
    noun: bolt; plural noun: bolts
    1
    .
    a metal pin or bar, in particular.

    :)
     
  3. FingerDub

    FingerDub Inactive

    Jan 8, 2016
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  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Ovation Magnums have T-nuts buried in the neck heel under the fingerboard and actually mount to the bass with real neck bolts rather than screws. So there. :p
     
  5. Neck bolts GOOOOOOD
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  6. To me, a "screw on neck" sounds like the neck is pointed/threaded and you "screw" it into the body...

    Or maybe that's a "screw IN neck"... :roflmao:
     
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  7. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    I think you will find that they are machine screws, not bolts.
     
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  8. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    It's an obvious misnomer.

    bolt
    (bōlt)n.
    1. A bar made of wood or metal that slides into a socket and is used to fasten doors and gates.
    2. A metal bar or rod in the mechanism of a lock that is thrown or withdrawn by turning the key.

    3. A fastener consisting of a threaded pin or rod with a head at one end, designed to be inserted through holes in assembled parts and secured by a mated nut that is tightened by applying torque.


    screw

    (skro͞o)n.
    1.
    a. A cylindrical rod incised with one or more helical or advancing spiral threads, as a lead screw or worm screw.
    b. The tapped collar or socket that receives this rod.

    2. A metal pin with incised threads and a broad slotted head that can be driven as a fastener by turning with a screwdriver, especially:
    a. A tapered and pointed wood screw.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2017
  9. The Machinery Hanbook is a good reference accepted by engineers as an authoritative guide. I don't have my copy handy, so I can't quote it directly, but this is what I think it says about screws and bolts.

    A bolt is an externally threaded fastener designed for insertion through holes in assembled parts, and is normally intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut.

    A screw is an externally threaded fastener capable of being inserted into holes in assembled parts, of mating with a preformed internal thread or forming its own thread and of being tightened and released by torquing the head.

    Thus, "bolt on" is not an accurate term for wood screws, or machine screws used to attach a neck.
     
  10. Wisebass

    Wisebass

    Jan 12, 2017
    Lost in Space
    Hi longfinger :D you nailed it.

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    greetings

    Wise(b)ass
     
  11. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    There's gotta be something else we can talk about.

    The grout in my office is looking a little rough. Perhaps I should brush it and maybe reseal it.

    I don't know what to have for dinner tonight....

    How can I get my 5 year old to quit picking her nose?
     
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  12. Yes.
    Burritos.
    Hot Sauce.
     
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  13. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    My gran used to say "don't pick your nose, it will cave in"
     
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  14. bassplayertom77

    bassplayertom77

    Sep 24, 2008
    "Real" bolted joints as opposed to wood screw[edit]
    The term is usually a misnomer, introduced mostly by Fender whose guitars traditionally had what is called bolt-on necks. Real bolted joints (i.e., using bolt coupled with a nut) exist—particularly in acoustic guitars—but are less common in electric guitars.[3] However, at least one aftermarket manufacturer[4] offers a replacement for Fender neckplates and screws that uses captive inserts—embedded in the guitar body by means of an external self-tapping thread — and M4 machine screws. The maker claims this permits a higher fastening torque than ordinary wood screws, and hence a better coupling between neck and body.
     
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  15. twinjet

    twinjet Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Sep 23, 2008
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    Some cheaper models use actual screws. My cheapo Lyon LB-10 does. I don't recall what my L-2000 uses.
     
  16. Nofrets2

    Nofrets2 Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Lag bolts do not require nuts to fasten and the nuts & bolts you refer to can also be called machine screws. Why be concerned about such triviality. Let's play music.
     
  17. Klaxxi

    Klaxxi

    Mar 6, 2017
    Beaumont, TX
    I own a Magnum 1 myself and I did not know this. I've never needed to take the neck off admittedly.
     
  18. pappabass

    pappabass Inactive

    May 19, 2006
    Alabama !! Roll Tide
    Why is it called a 'neck thru' ? neck thru what ? ? why not 1 piece?
     
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  19. jwilson67

    jwilson67

    Jun 2, 2015
    San Dimas, CA
    Because "Screw on neck" sounds very lurid.
     
  20. Ant Illington

    Ant Illington I'm Anthony but I'm only illin' Inactive

    I know, I'm still looking for the wheels and bed on all of my pick-ups. Don't get me started on bass nuts. We can go on but hopefully we won't.
     
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