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Wishbass Club pt. 2

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Funny, I asked Wish if he had any "striped" ones coming up and he responded by saying I could order one...

In all fairness, I wouldn't call that Walnut Lobe a striped bass. His striped basses have been made of many thin strips of wood, this one is more like a walnut bass with an accent stripe. I always find the striped ones to look kind of cheesy, never appealed to me, but that walnut. Have I mentioned how sexy I find that instrument?
 
"In all fairness, I wouldn't call that Walnut Lobe a striped bass. His striped basses have been made of many thin strips of wood, this one is more like a walnut bass with an accent stripe. I always find the striped ones to look kind of cheesy, never appealed to me, but that walnut. Have I mentioned how sexy I find that instrument?"

- I agree! Now that I look at the pix more closely, this one is primarily walnut (with some outrageous grain activity) and then the ribbons of lighter wood. I bet Wish makes another one using what is left over from this batch of woods. A very good-looking axe!
 
I nabbed the Hipper 4 that Wish put up earlier this week on Ebay. Take a look.
 

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Guys, just in case you are wondering, I put my treasured Scarab up on Ebay, it has been pictured previously in this thread, certainly not the average Wishbass, IMO. Real nice one, you'll see. I just don't use it and I am selling off several other basses as well, just have too many basses and need to cut down. Out of about ten Wishbasses, after this one is sold all I will have left is my first, the one pictured in my avatar.
 
Last week I just placed an order for a Wish Bass. I can't wait to get the instrument.

Does anybody hear have any words of wisdom as far as how to talk the Wishmeister into making a great instrument? I want to get the instrument made the way that I want it (thinner neck, FINISHED FRETBOARD, properly placed markers, etc), but I also don't want to be get off like I'm harassing the Wishmeister. . . . Any input on how to best handle the order?
 
Last week I just placed an order for a Wish Bass. I can't wait to get the instrument.

Does anybody hear have any words of wisdom as far as how to talk the Wishmeister into making a great instrument? I want to get the instrument made the way that I want it (thinner neck, FINISHED FRETBOARD, properly placed markers, etc), but I also don't want to be get off like I'm harassing the Wishmeister. . . . Any input on how to best handle the order?

good luck with that. i don't have any advice.
 
put the order in, and don't expect it to be exactly what you want.

I'd advise you to get it done unfinished - then do it yourself. you should be able to sand the neck down a bit.

but if you are going to ask for a thinner neck, you may want him to put in a truss rod. the reason he makes the necks thicker is so that they "don't warp".
I'd also say that I've heard that wish doesn't like to do the custom orders. you might do well to grab one on ebay and mod it as much as you can.
 
Last week I just placed an order for a Wish Bass. I can't wait to get the instrument.

Does anybody hear have any words of wisdom as far as how to talk the Wishmeister into making a great instrument? I want to get the instrument made the way that I want it (thinner neck, FINISHED FRETBOARD, properly placed markers, etc), but I also don't want to be get off like I'm harassing the Wishmeister. . . . Any input on how to best handle the order?

Ask him up front. Make sure everything you want is on the original spec sheet, he is not good with keeping up with changes or last minute ideas. On my last build, I asked for better finish and offered to pay for it. He had his buddy help him finish it (I think this guy used to work for him when he had a larger shop). Anyway, of the five wishbasses I own, this one is by far the best finish, and every request I made up front was followed to the T. I'm like you, I hate to bug someone, but Steve is fairly patient with you as long as you're respectful.
 
Huh. Yeah, I asked for a truss rod and a "thinner neck, more along the lines of a P-Bass." From what I hear, though, I keep feeling like I should be reiterating these ideas, as it doesn't seem as though he's into remembering what you ask for.

I'm getting the instrument white, and I'm planning on finishing it myself. I'm a complete noob on this type of stuff, but it doesn't seem as though finishing the instrument will be outside of my capacity.

Speaking of which, does anybody know where I could find a good thorough walkthrough on finishing a Wish. I know what I'll be doing plenty of sanding, and I'm debating either going with Tung oil or Tru-Oil, but beyond that things get a bit fuzzy. My bass is going to have a mahogany body, which I hear is quite porous so I'm going to have to fill the pores. Does anybody have experience with this? I've heard that you can use pore filler or do a wet-sanding technique and then apply the finish so that the sanded wood fills the pores. Any input on this would be hugely appreciated!!!

Also, I'm unsure as to how I will go about finishing the neck and the fretboard. . . Do you guys generally use the same finish for the neck as you do for the body? And, do you guys even finish the necks, or simply apply lemon-oil or fretboard oil and leave it at that?

Thanks again!
 
LexTron6K; Well, here's my take on it. I have purchased eight (8) of Wish's instruments, all of them but one being basses. One of the eight is a custom order zebrawood 4 string fretless Fantasy which I ordered "in white". On custom orders you need to be very specific and very detailed, and it is best if that specificity is done up front. Wish is not good with mid-stream changes. He has good intentions, but he tends to forget.

What I did was create a spec sheet in my computer, in addition to his order blank sheet. I listed in very clear order what the bass was to be and what I wanted. There were a few things I did not quite have figured out so I asked him (on the list) what he would suggest (IE: What wood to make the back out of - he suggested the same as the front, which I thought was great). I also asked him about scale length and neck width while at the same time asking for it to be more narrow and a shorter scale than his Ebay basses. In other words, I left him some artistic license to do his own thing within the confines of the custom order. I also submitted a decent drawing (I can draw pretty well I am told) of the bass because I wanted the headstock to be angled, but to the opposite direction he usually points them. At the same time, I was prepared to receive the bass with some of these details different than I had requested. I also sent him more than half of the projected cost of the bass just so he would know I was serious. I was (am) always respectful, courteous and above all; patient!

By the way, when the bass arrived, it was exactly as I had requested and I love it. It has great tone and sustain and now all that is left is for me is to smooth it out, finish it and change out the strings. I emailed Wish after the fact and he mentioned to me that he enjoyed working on this one - he called it a "fun" project. That made me feel good. All in all, I had a very good custom order experience and would not hestiate to do it again if I couldn't find what I wanted amongst his regular offerings. Good luck!
 
Cool. Thanks 49sfine.

My story (shorter rather than longer) is that I was trying to win a WishBass on Ebay a few weeks ago, lost, and couldn't imagine living the rest of my life without one. So I did what any two-balled human would do and contacted the man myself. I sent him the photos from the auction and asked the Wishmeister if he remembered that particular instrument, and he said he sure did. It sounds like he was quite fond of that particular one actually. So I'm having him build me that same "model" (he said he thought it was called the Bass Face), and really the only other specs that I've given him besides "COPY THE BASS IN THE PICTURES" is that I'd like the neck to have a truss rod and I'd like it a little thinner, along the lines of a P-bass. I guess that I also specified the wood (mahogany body, maple neck, purplewood fretboard), and I ordered it in the white.

Here's the bass that I lost the auction on:

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I can't wait for my instrument to get done. . ..

Can you tell me about the the angle of your headstock? Are you talking about the angle on the top of the head, or the angle of the head itself in relation to the neck?
 
Speaking of which, does anybody know where I could find a good thorough walkthrough on finishing a Wish. I know what I'll be doing plenty of sanding, and I'm debating either going with Tung oil or Tru-Oil, but beyond that things get a bit fuzzy.

Here my description of what I did. Assuming very basic skills; sanding, wiping/brushing: the main requirement is patience. Obviously, soldering is useful if you're going to tackle the electrics.

I started by filling any gaps (and there were a few!) with gel super glue and the colored wood filler, which was source at my local Home Depot. I then got down to sanding!

I did the bulk of the 'major' shaping with regular old coarse (60 grit) and medium coarse (100 grit i think!) sand paper. The three areas that needed the most were the upper horn, the lower horn and the back neck to body join.

After I was happy with the overall shape I went to work with 150 grit, getting the curves on the body to where I wanted them. The 150 grit was certainly the best for accurate shaping and then I went up through 220, 320, 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200 to 1500 grit. I got all my papers (3M and Eagle Brand) from Stewmac.com. The 1000, 1200 and 1500 I used wet, but not oiled as per the recommendation. You really have to keep constantly wetting/cleaning the paper. Depending on what I was doing I used a soft rubber block, a wooden block or my hand for the paper.

Once I got everything to my likening, and there were several times when I went back to 220 to refine some shaping, I used a set of micro-finishing pads. These went from 2000 (I think) to 12000 grit; again from Stew-Mac. The high grits were probably overkill, but it was fun to see what a shine I could put on the bass without using any type of lacquer of finish!

For the finish on the recommendation of Kevin Robertson at KRGuitars who I'd been building a bass with, I went with TruOil, which I bought from Lmii.com. I initially used the TruOil sealer to fill the grain, having sanded so fine this wasn't really necessary but I thought "what the heck". Allowing that to dry as per the instructions, I then went to work with the TruOil itself. After the initial first coast, which I evened out with 0000 steelwool, I found the best way to go was very sparingly wiped on with a rag and then very light buffing with the 0000 wool. I reckon I did about 4 applications of the TruOil, but it wasn't thick as I was buffing down.

I sanded the fingerboard using the higher grit papers (320 and above) till it was silky smooth and then applied StewMan fretboard finishing oil as per instructions, which gave me a very nice finish.

When I was happy with the finish I went to work on the control cavity cover. I bought a headstock piece of flamed maple from Lmii.com and went to work on it with my hand jigsaw to get the basic shape I wanted, using the original aluminum cover as a guide. I then sanded and shaped using 220 grit and as it was a thin piece of wood I didn't need to do much work at all. I then went to work with the higher grits and finally the finishing pads. It was then sealed and TruOiled.

I fitted a Wishbass control harness that I bought off eBay (but made by TBer 3stringpete). A little bit of soldering but nothing difficult. I also changed out the volume pot for a linear one, which worked better for me with the harness.

I bought the ebony control knobs again from Lmii.com fitted them and a set of Schaler strap locks and I was nearly done.

My final 'trick' was while a lot of folks think that the bridge is ebony it is actually a Corian bridge that Steve W sent me that I have sprayed with satin black Rustoleum from the can. I did about 5 coats and so far it stayed black really well! If I thought about it at the time, I would have done the same with the nut, but there you go, maybe on the next string change.

Finally I changed the round wound strings to Rotosound Jazz 77 flats; 45 - 105.

So there we have it: How to refin a Wishbass!

By the way if I've said in an earlier post but 'she' sounds as good as 'she' looks!

If you need any more info or explanation ask away!
 
Thanks Thunderitter!

What type of would is your bass made of that you were referencing in your description? I ask this because I'm curious as to whether or not it is a more open-grained wood like the mahogany that I'll be dealing with. Also, it sound like you basically treated the neck like the rest of the body, which would be with the Tru Oil. Is that true?
 
Thanks Thunderitter!

What type of would is your bass made of that you were referencing in your description? I ask this because I'm curious as to whether or not it is a more open-grained wood like the mahogany that I'll be dealing with. Also, it sound like you basically treated the neck like the rest of the body, which would be with the Tru Oil. Is that true?

The front is curly maple, the back is african mahogany, the neck is walnut with purple heart and maple stringers and the fingerboard is jatoba. as per attached pics.

I did use the Tru-Oil sealer as a prep. before the actual Tru-Oil on the recommendation of a luthier friend of mine. I did the neck in the same way as the body. Just make sure you do it all sparingly and do multiple coats.

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