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Wishnevsky!!!!!!

Originally posted by Hambone
I took Narud's post to heart and went to DP's website to peruse the goods. I looked at every single bass in the gallery, up close. I think I see where Narud gets his opinion. Dave's designs IMO lack a bit of balance. I'm saying this in the artistic sense. The different curves of his body shapes quite often don't compliment each other and they don't "flow". I understand this concept pretty well, having designed my own. I worked for quite a long time trying to get that "flow" between the top and bottom halves, front to rear. One of my goals was to not make any curve or it's negative space counterpart overly attractive to the eye. It's a very difficult thing. I understand completely the desire to replicate classic designs like the Jazz because they ARE so well executed.

But the one major difference, in terms of our discussion here, is that every single contour on Dave's instruments is there by design. I am confident of that. I saw no choppy curves, poorly routed cavities, or sloppy finishes. THAT is craftsmanship. I see all of that in the Wishnevsky's and it is a little disturbing.

One thing in defense of DP is that a lot of his bodies are based on suggestions and/or outright designs of his customers. He will inform them if a design is a bad idea, but bottom line he will build what they want, if they don't listen to his reasoning.

BTW - I don't own, and probably never will own a DP, so I have no vested interest in defending him.;)
 
Originally posted by Gabu


Davey Crockett - You're A-Okay, by me! :D I have definately heard more + than - things.

yeah, me too - in fact, i saw a pic of that 7 you build for dave burkowitz, and that thing looked fabulous. don't misunderstand my post about the "valid point" thing - i only meant that narud had the right to his own opinion, it wasn't a flame, just his opinion. i didn't mean that i shared that opinion.
 
As far as the "unique piece of art" angle is concerned, several of the galleries dealing in fine art paintings and sculpture I know won't accept work which isn't presented in a completely professional manner-that means not only the painting but the structure it is built on or stretched across. There is no excuse for shoddy workmanship in any art form if the creator wishes to be taken seriously as an "artist." It's one thing if sloppiness or looseness is the goal someone is trying to achieve, but this is obviously NOT one of his goals.

On the other hand, I've always wanted one of his cheap E-Bay ones just to hang on a wall.
 
Being the type that can't leave well enough alone - I submit for your approval Wish's latest abom...er, art:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=903352578

Damn if he isn't so proud of these that he's "branding" them the "Wishbass" - no, I really mean BRANDING them - take a look at the back of the bass.

I really like his creative alignment of the pup too!:rolleyes:
 
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Hehe, that one is actually almost cool! The only thing in somewhat worse taste than usual is that "fried egg" control plate.

The branding on the back didn't quite take though, he should use a more powerful tool for that - like THE SPACE SHUTTLE!!! :D
 
Don't get me wrong, I have less than no interest in buying any of the Wishnevskys I've seen, but I do think some of you guys are being a little too hard on the guy. At least in some respects. For instance, regarding the pickup routes. Now, I've seen better routing jobs (actually, on almost any other bass I've ever seen). But I was in Rudy's on 48th St just yesterday, idly looking over some MTDs, and guess what: the pickup routes weren't all that sharp and accurate on several of those $3000 basses either. Not down to Wishbass level, but not as good as the average Carvin either. Does this make the MTD a badly made bass? Hell no. Does it mean Mike Tobias doesn't care about details? Hell no again; you couldn't play one of his basses and believe that, even if they're not your cup of tea. It just means this is a cosmetic issue, a relatively minor one, that really doesn't affect tone or playability and thus, IMHO at least, shouldn't be obsessed over.

In other words, if you wouldn't blast MTD for the routing they do on a $3000 bass, give Wishnevsky a break, on this point at least, for what he does on a $300 bass. (I'm *not* sticking up for him on the other stuff, though.) Or if PU routes are that important, then blast MTD as well as Wishnevsky.
 
Originally posted by Richard Lindsey
Or if PU routes are that important, then blast MTD as well as Wishnevsky.

Well, I'd have to see one of these "sketchy" MTD routing jobs myself first.

But it's not so much that "pickup route perfection" is important. It's the difference between "oops, the template slipped a couple mm, but it's such a nice piece of wood, and the bass is otherwise perfect. . .I'll let it go", and "what's a template??". Seriously, not really the same ballpark there.