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Wishnevsky!!!!!!
- Thread starter rllefebv
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yunno , if Ibanez got together some sales spiel for a Wishnevsky bass and put ads in Bass Player they'd be flying out of the music stores (to be burned?
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the radical new Wishnevsky Acoustic Bass marks a quantum leap forward in musical instrument design;
the patented Assymetrical Body Attachment System allows previously unheard of acoustic volume and projection, and completely eliminates dead spots and wolf tones that have plagued our competitors' instruments.
the twin tuned ports allow tuning of the sound chambers using custom plugs, and eliminate feedback in live situations.
the open headstock design promotes a completely even tone all over the neck.
The Ibanez Wishnevsky- The future of bass
it could happen......
yunno , if Ibanez got together some sales spiel for a Wishnevsky bass and put ads in Bass Player they'd be flying out of the music stores (to be burned?
)-eg.
the radical new Wishnevsky Acoustic Bass marks a quantum leap forward in musical instrument design;
the patented Assymetrical Body Attachment System allows previously unheard of acoustic volume and projection, and completely eliminates dead spots and wolf tones that have plagued our competitors' instruments.
the twin tuned ports allow tuning of the sound chambers using custom plugs, and eliminate feedback in live situations.
the open headstock design promotes a completely even tone all over the neck.
The Ibanez Wishnevsky- The future of bass
it could happen......
Oh no not again!....Wishnevsky is really not a "luthier".....He is a Artist. Got It!!!... As a artist myself I happen to like what he is doing and understand his vision. I now think some of you are starting to understand what Wishnevsky is doing..But I guess even today there's still that mentality that, if it doesn't look like a Pink Floyd album cover it ain't art bro!
I kinda like some of the stuff that Wishnevsky has done, sure it is untraditional, and some may call it bizare, I find it in some ways interesting. I see it as an untraditional design with "class" unlike some of the other more bizare things out there I have seen.
now, if you could prove to me that a bass was made by Dali, i don't care if it was a babboo's behind for the design, i would still buy it..
Here is an Wishy that isn't completely back asswards.
Hell, i'd even buy this one.
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Fetch, even though this goes against the quote in my sig, sometimes Functional Art is tolerated vandalism too. But hey, I see your POV too and partially agree with you.
Hell, i'd even buy this one.
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Fetch, even though this goes against the quote in my sig, sometimes Functional Art is tolerated vandalism too.
But hey, I see your POV too and partially agree with you.Type O Negative... I read some of their lyric's..
I don't think anyone should be getting advice about anything form these guys...I really don't get what they mean by "Fuctionless Art"??? ChaosGwar, What happend to that MIM Squier P-Bass you where looking at on eBay???
I don't think anyone should be getting advice about anything form these guys...I really don't get what they mean by "Fuctionless Art"??? ChaosGwar, What happend to that MIM Squier P-Bass you where looking at on eBay???
A "normal looking" Wishnevsky
I too work in the visual arts as well as music, so believe me, I understand where you are coming from. But he's selling them as instruments, thereby making him a instrument maker.
And the fact that his designs are, we'll say, unconventional is only half the story.
**Disclaimer: I have never played a Wishnevsky, I have never been in the presence of a Wishnevsky. So I can't make any claim as to wether his instruments are good or not. **
But as a lay person, I can say, I don't usually like the way they look. And I would say that if I saw one hanging in a music store or a museum.
That shouldn't excuse him from a little good natured ribbing. Because, well let's face it, we've all seen his work and...you know it's kinda...
He seems as though he's a qualified wood worker. But, so often his instruments seem to be a little sloppy on details. (Please see Disclaimer)
After all, a thread titled "A normal looking Wishnevsky" was meant to be tounge-in-cheek anyway. So if we take a few jabs at a guy who makes "Art that functions as a bass", He should be grateful for the exposure.
My $.02
I too work in the visual arts as well as music, so believe me, I understand where you are coming from. But he's selling them as instruments, thereby making him a instrument maker.
And the fact that his designs are, we'll say, unconventional is only half the story.
**Disclaimer: I have never played a Wishnevsky, I have never been in the presence of a Wishnevsky. So I can't make any claim as to wether his instruments are good or not. **
But as a lay person, I can say, I don't usually like the way they look. And I would say that if I saw one hanging in a music store or a museum.
That shouldn't excuse him from a little good natured ribbing. Because, well let's face it, we've all seen his work and...you know it's kinda...
He seems as though he's a qualified wood worker. But, so often his instruments seem to be a little sloppy on details. (Please see Disclaimer)
After all, a thread titled "A normal looking Wishnevsky" was meant to be tounge-in-cheek anyway. So if we take a few jabs at a guy who makes "Art that functions as a bass", He should be grateful for the exposure.
My $.02
Apart from the initial impression, I think looks come in third, after sound and feel (not necessarily in that order), so if that bass sounds great perhaps I could live with the strange looks. On the other hand peer pressure can be one strong m-f. 
When I bought my Turner Renaissance (OK, bad comparison to the bass in this thread) I got many strange comments on the unusual shape (I love it though, it's a bit Picasso-ish) but as it plays and sounds great I would keep playing it regardless what people say about the shape.
Edit: Took at the picture, this is not about the Turner, but rather about looks vs sound.
When I bought my Turner Renaissance (OK, bad comparison to the bass in this thread) I got many strange comments on the unusual shape (I love it though, it's a bit Picasso-ish) but as it plays and sounds great I would keep playing it regardless what people say about the shape.
Edit: Took at the picture, this is not about the Turner, but rather about looks vs sound.
My big beef is the lack of details in construction. The overall concepts are solid, but the execution is severly lacking. Lumpy headstocks, holes where they shouldn't be, unattractive slabs of rough cut plastic as a control holder, obvious construction mistakes (in an eBay picture nonetheless), questionable electronics, uncertainty of woods used, only fretless basses (maybe he knows his limits?), etc.
At one time I was a little interested, but now I'm convinced it'd just be a waste of money on a tonally and ergonomically unusable piece of wood and metal.
Too bad.
At one time I was a little interested, but now I'm convinced it'd just be a waste of money on a tonally and ergonomically unusable piece of wood and metal.
Too bad.
I THINK I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET THE BASS THAT CHAOSGWAR POSTED.
I CAN TRY TO FIX IT UP. THE CONTROL KNOB, THE PUP. AND THE BRIDGE MAYBE MAKE IT A STRINGTHROUGH. A REAL STRING THROUGH
SORRY FOR THE CAPSLOCK. WORK REASONS
STEVE
I CAN TRY TO FIX IT UP. THE CONTROL KNOB, THE PUP. AND THE BRIDGE MAYBE MAKE IT A STRINGTHROUGH. A REAL STRING THROUGH
SORRY FOR THE CAPSLOCK. WORK REASONS
STEVE
one thing that gets me is his description of the neck construction of his different instruments;
Jumbo acoustic;
"The neck is Maple, with two Jatoba strips for stiffness."
Scroll-style fretless;
"the neck has two stringers of Purpleheart and one of Maple for stiffness"
so in terms of stiffness Jatoba>Maple>Purpleheart?
but then,
Wild cherry fretless;
"The neck is Curly Maple with two stringers of Purpleheart and one of Jatoba for stiffness."
Jumbo acoustic;
"The neck is Maple, with two Jatoba strips for stiffness."
Scroll-style fretless;
"the neck has two stringers of Purpleheart and one of Maple for stiffness"
so in terms of stiffness Jatoba>Maple>Purpleheart?
but then,
Wild cherry fretless;
"The neck is Curly Maple with two stringers of Purpleheart and one of Jatoba for stiffness."
I think laminating with almost any hard wood will increase stiffness and stability, just because you introduce other wood fiber orientations etc.
A question for the luthiers here I guess...
A question for the luthiers here I guess...
Blimey Limey this is being charitable to a fault!!
As an aspiring pro-luthier I can appreciate the difficulty that acoustic instruments can pose in their creation. In fact, if you look at some of the work I've done, you will find imperfections. If I look at my work, I find even more, but how far off is that neck from where it should be? ½"?, ¾"? That is a long way from being "a little sloppy". The positioning of the soundholes looks like it was done by eyeball - Marty Feldman's eyeballs!!
At best, I suppose you can call it art since art isn't usually functional. But I don't think you can honestly call this an instrument that is meant to be played. A better example of the luthiery "art" would be just about any of the beautiful creations we've seen in this forum from the true craftsmen like Conklin, Pushic, Eshenbaugh, Curbow, or any of the others. Form following function with incredible workmanship.
And before you go wailing on my credentials, I've got 22 years in the visual arts in more disciplines than you can shake a stick at.
