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Workshop Tools - the essentials???

#221
PDX Rich said:
So I am guessing that a second pass (with top spun around to catch what had been hanging over the edge on the first pass) will yield undesirable results on a smaller sander?
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Not really, you have to basically do the same thing with my machine because it sands a bit deeper on the frame side because it opens up slightly on the open side. I guess I could play with the table height to try and counter this issue. But I would guess the 10" machine is even more under powered than the 16" machine, which could cause you some issues.
 
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Hopkins said:
Not really, you have to basically do the same thing with my machine because it sands a bit deeper on the frame side because it opens up slightly on the open side. I guess I could play with the table height to try and counter this issue. But I would guess the 10" machine is even more under powered than the 16" machine, which could cause you some issues.
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Noted. Thanks for the tip! In the meantime, there is a closely shop that has gigantic amazing equipment. They charge a pretty reasonable price, but it is not really worth it unless I have an armload of material to process.
 
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The old FWW (Fine Woodworking) reprint book "making and modifying machines" had a do-able surfacing drum sander (not open, but then, that will save you from the open-end spread issue Hopkins describes.) Presumably that means the same is any deep enough archive of the magazine (the reprint book in question is from the black and white era), or their CDs that have all the back-issues on them. I found it at the local library, as far as I recall. I haven't built the drum sander, but it did look like a feasible project.
 
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WOW, I've not seen such a debate over a table saw in quite some time. Technically, I guess a table saw is not necessary to build guitars/basses... me personal, I love mine and find it invaluable. I use it everyday, for things such as: cutting down sheet goods to make templates, making jigs, breaking down billets to more manageable sizes (along with a miter saw), and of course... making shop cabinets, workbenches, and other necessary shop furniture and organizational pieces. If you don't think you'll be getting a hybrid cabinet saw, consider building a table saw cabinet for your Bosch, like any of these.

I think Grizzly is a good way to go.

I say a drum sander is a must, building one is not difficult and a whole lot cheaper (I built the one I have) there's a bunch of info on the web, I'll point out two, 1) , [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. A conveyor belt sure is nice though. lastly on this, every open ended drum sander I've used, or lets say been associated with, tends to sag on the open side.

Finally, My Harbor Freight workbench up grade (quick version). First I bought some 14" full extension slides. Then I removed the drawers and the cheep MDF pieces the slides were attached to. Built a open face box with a divider that fit on the bottom shelf. put it together... much better.


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All the best. :thumbsup:
 
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No problem, I had to have a bone graft on my lower jaw Wednesday, so I can't do much. I thought I'd hang out with the LC for A bit seeing as I have some down time, HA HA.

Any way... I went the hook & loop rout. HD sells 2" wide industrial strength Velcro, so I got some of that, and wrapped the hook portion around the drum in a spiral. then I ordered some hook & loop sand paper rolls and spiraled that on.
 
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Thanks again for all the wonderful suggestions! I really appreciate everyone taking the time! MrArose - hope you are well on your way to healing and being back to normal.

By way of an update - the barn will supposedly be close enough to "tenant-ready" by mid-June - so that I can do a walk through with the owner then. If all goes well, I should be in there sometime in july!
 
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mapleglo said:
There's a lot of great information in this thread, thanks for starting it Rick! This thread should be sticky'd.
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Hey 'glo

Upon further reflection - for me, as a guy just starting to get his feet wet - the unexpected and amazing thing is that there really are very few "essentials" that everyone agrees upon. It's a passionate and opinionated group, and I wouldn't want it any other way. I think many of the builders here are as passionate about the tool "brands" they use and recommend - as folks are with the bass "brands" they use and recommend all over this forum. Everyone seems to enjoy the sharing of ideas - and the opportunity to learn new methods and techniques is truly extraordinary. Everyone has their own approach in the way they like to work - and their own collection of both power and hand tools - which to them are indispensable. It's a magical mystery tour of sometimes conflicting thoughts and feelings - about the nature of the diversity we have in attacking the same challenges.

Some consider certain things to be absolutely essential - and others don't agree - and vice versa. Some old schoolers can craft amazing builds and instruments using only a variety of hand tools, while others like to automate the process as much as possible. Most everyone else falls in between the extremes. For me, although it's limited at this point - I learned how to do things in a very specific way, and what I am up to has certain demands. The tools I learned on influence me to a great extent - and I don't have enough experience in learning alternative ways of doing things. The guys teaching me have a combined 80 years of wood working under their belts. That is the experience they draw on. As much as that can be a drawback - I actually think it might be an advantage at times - that they are not specifically or exclusively "luthiers". I think what I appreciate most is the practical way they attack a variety of tasks, always thinking and looking around for the shortest distance between the two points.

So again, thanks to each and every one of you for sharing your heart, passion, skills and ideas. I love it here!
 
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