The talk of the momentary switches has me curious. Are you guys hoping to hit the switch and have the machine drop in right in time with ya or what? The idea of turning a drum machine of any nature on in a momentary fashion seems a little dicey to me. I've occasionally used my Boss beatmaker with it ran into an A/B box just so I could shut it off it's output with my foot. But dropping it back in, in the middle of a song seems like it could get ugly...
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Worlds First Drum Machine in Pedal Form!
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- We make and sell the Aeros Loop Studio, the BeatBuddy, the Midi Maestro and the Cabli
As of now everything is still on schedule for July delivery. All parts have been ordered and are in production as scheduled. Unfortunately, there isn't that much to report at this stage of the process -- we will be sending out more updates as things progress. To be honest, I have never heard of production happening earlier than expected (it's usually the opposite, as we've experienced) but miracles may happen... if they do, you will be the first to be informed. We do continue to work on the interface software and content. We will be releasing more videos soon with more demos.
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How will your branded foot switch be different from this one? I bought it after seeing it in your videos in preparation for the arrival of BB.
Johnson FX-020 Stereo Footswitch
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EO6N08/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This footswitch will work fine -- we're using this now. The footswitch we're making will use momentary switches (the FX-020 has latching switches) so it will have a smoother feel (no clicking of the latch) and a longer lifespan -- and it will look cooler
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The footswitch will be used to insert accent hits and pause/unpause the beat. We tested the Pigtronix Infinity Remote footswitch which has momentary switches and it worked perfectly.
It's the pause/unpause the beat that I'm skeptical of. Don't mind me...I'll pop-corn(watch) this one for next few months (hopefully).
Hence my suggestion to optionally drop back in with a pickup or fill, which has been adopted.
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It should... as long as it's a standard footswitch with one switch going to L channel and one going to the R channel.
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Any chance of getting the software before the pedal? I thought that was something that was possibly going to be able to happen, for those of us who purchased it already. I would be great if we could learn to use, program things, and get going as soon as we got the unit.
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Yes, we will release the software probably around a month or so before delivery. We're currently adding new features and testing it so it's not done just yet.
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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Hey guys, I think I made a mistake in some info I gave earlier. I asked Pigtronix whether their footswitch is "normally closed" or "normally open." They told me "normally open." This is technical language about the circuits. I think that when David is saying about "it's always off, then you press it to be to be on," that could still be either type of circuit, they both have the potential to function in the same manner. But if the Pigtronix remote switch (shown here: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]) worked for the Beat Buddy and you're ordering/making a custom switch (like I might be), then it should be "normally open" according to the Pigtronix tech I e-mailed.
I hope I'm not spreading any false information here. I'm just trying to make sure I understand it properly.
I hope I'm not spreading any false information here. I'm just trying to make sure I understand it properly.
Now I'm confused!
AFAIK: Momentary = changes position while activated, returning to steady state when released. Steady state on some may be toggled to be open or closed circuit, others have fixed steady state mode, open OR closed.
AFAIK: Momentary = changes position while activated, returning to steady state when released. Steady state on some may be toggled to be open or closed circuit, others have fixed steady state mode, open OR closed.
Adamixoye
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Here's how I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
(1) Latching---hitting a switch changes the signal from A to B, and then it stays on B, until you hit it again and it switches back to A
(2) Momentary/unlatched---as you described it, it is always "A" but when depressed it is "B," and then "A" again when you release it
BUT there are two types of momentary/unlatched switches, the other one basically reverses A and B. But the "momentary" nature is the same. It's just a matter of what type of signal is being sent/interrupted. These are called "normally open" or "normally closed." And again, the Pigtronix people told me their remote switch is "normally open." So if that works on the Beat Buddy, that's the type we should get. Here is the entirety of our conversation:
in an e-mail to Pigtronix I said:
Pigtronix in an e-mail back to me said:
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Normally open means that the circuit is open so electricity can't flow through it, so it would be 'off' if used with a lightbulb, for example. You press the switch to close the circuit to turn it 'on'.
The BeatBuddy uses latching switches (in which a single press will either turn it on or off) by interpreting either on or off as a command, such as to trigger a cymbal crash. When you press a momentary switch and hold it down it is on, when you release it, it is off. So if the setting is for a latching switch, but you use a momentary switch, you get one cymbal crash when you press the switch (on) and one when you release it (off) -- which is actually pretty cool for very fast cymbal crashes when ending a song with a bang
The way we are working the momentary switch setting is that the BeatBuddy ignores every second on or off command, so there is no command as you release the switch, whether you use a normally closed or open switch. So bottom line, you can use either.
The BeatBuddy uses latching switches (in which a single press will either turn it on or off) by interpreting either on or off as a command, such as to trigger a cymbal crash. When you press a momentary switch and hold it down it is on, when you release it, it is off. So if the setting is for a latching switch, but you use a momentary switch, you get one cymbal crash when you press the switch (on) and one when you release it (off) -- which is actually pretty cool for very fast cymbal crashes when ending a song with a bang
The way we are working the momentary switch setting is that the BeatBuddy ignores every second on or off command, so there is no command as you release the switch, whether you use a normally closed or open switch. So bottom line, you can use either.
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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+1, even though this has been brought up several times, I still I don't see where you would put them externally, and I can't imagine the interior has any room.
