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Worship Bass Pedalboards

#1,002
Adamixoye said:
This past Sunday there was a key issue...for a different song we had been practicing, the keyboardist used an automatic transposition on the keyboard and forgot to take it off for our opening song.
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Certainly would be nice for people to know how to play their instruments!

Transposition would be one of those necessary skills (and barre chords!).

Dan
 
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Dan Knowlton said:
Certainly would be nice for people to know how to play their instruments!

Transposition would be one of those necessary skills (and barre chords!).

Dan
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I'm not sure this is fair. He's a skilled player. Using the transposition on the keyboard for the other song was because of a last-minute change, and the fact he forgot to change the settings was an honest mistake. As a band we're competent, but we're not professionals either. Sometimes the rough edges show.
 
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Adamixoye said:
I'm not sure this is fair. He's a skilled player. Using the transposition on the keyboard for the other song was because of a last-minute change, and the fact he forgot to change the settings was an honest mistake. As a band we're competent, but we're not professionals either. Sometimes the rough edges show.
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Maybe I was harsh - probably a reflection of the number of times that I have had to play with keyboards that depend on the transpose function because they cannot transpose on the fly and the guitarists that cannot transpose without their capo - and then forget to bring it.

Dan
 
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Dan Knowlton said:
Maybe I was harsh - probably a reflection of the number of times that I have had to play with keyboards that depend on the transpose function because they cannot transpose on the fly and the guitarists that cannot transpose without their capo - and then forget to bring it.

Dan
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If you mean what I think you mean by "transposing on the fly" (reading music in one key and playing in another), then I'm not sure that's something I could do on any instrument, and I don't think that's a fair standard to hold other musicians to. Under other circumstances he would have written out the transposed music, but we have limited time for certain things and the way this particular morning played out, that was the route he took.
 
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Adamixoye said:
If you mean what I think you mean by "transposing on the fly" (reading music in one key and playing in another), then I'm not sure that's something I could do on any instrument, and I don't think that's a fair standard to hold other musicians to. Under other circumstances he would have written out the transposed music, but we have limited time for certain things and the way this particular morning played out, that was the route he took.
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I could transpose from some keys to others on the fly depending on the key we were going to and from, stuff like up a tone or down a 5th was pretty easy but for other keys i'd generally grab a pencil and write the new chords above the old ones, Bass is easy (You can just move the patterns), guitar and piano would be much harder.
 
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Hello All,

I play bass in my Worship team. I wanted a pedal to thicken up my tone. Something that can fill some empty space. We currently have three singers, keyboardist, acoustic guitar, electric guitar and drums. Our healing service worship team only consists of two singers, keyboard and acoustic guitar and of course me on bass.

I was thinking of using either a chorus or a light overdrive pedal. Any suggestions are welcome. Something simple.

Thanks

Shaun
 
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ODDBALL said:
Hello All,

I play bass in my Worship team. I wanted a pedal to thicken up my tone. Something that can fill some empty space. We currently have three singers, keyboardist, acoustic guitar, electric guitar and drums. Our healing service worship team only consists of two singers, keyboard and acoustic guitar and of course me on bass.

I was thinking of using either a chorus or a light overdrive pedal. Any suggestions are welcome. Something simple.

Thanks

Shaun
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A slightly left of center option is a mooer slow engine, (Boss Slow Gear Clone) once you get the hang of it you can do a pretty decent cello impersonation with your bass which might mean you can play some stuff an octive higher then you were in the past to better fill out sound, another option to add just a bit more to your sound is a "Slap back delay" basically any delay pedal set to a 30-50ms delay with a very limited number of repeats. If your playing a lot of rock based stuff i'd go for a light drive pedal over chorus, it will help you fill the void of a rhythm guitarist when your electric guitar is playing lead. I was never so much of a fan of chorus though unless it was very light and part of a reverb tail.

Another option could be to get a second hand mulitfx pedal and use it to try and work out what effects suite your playing style and then once you know swap it out for a decent version of the pedals for the effects you choose.
 
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Adamixoye said:
Re: your capo story, we've unfortunately had to learn all too well when to stop and restart songs. A few times it's been a tempo/time signature issue. This past Sunday there was a key issue...for a different song we had been practicing, the keyboardist used an automatic transposition on the keyboard and forgot to take it off for our opening song. I knew it on the first chord I hit. We restarted halfway into the first verse (I wasn't leading).

Re: leading from different instruments, I am not a very strong vocalist, but I do actually sing when I lead. I am usually surrounded by strong singers, so my role is as more of an ensemble/backup singer than a lead singer (though as band leader sometime I have to take the lead in terms of making sure people know which part we're on). But that's another factor; it's easier for me to sing playing guitar than playing bass overall (and it makes certain guitar parts very hard). If I wasn't singing or at least were singing less, I could imagine doing more of a "band leader" thing purely on bass.
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When I am band leader, I share lead vocal responsibilities with a female vocalist. But I usually handle the song progression and dynamics control, although much of that is determined durring practices as well.
 
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ODDBALL said:
Hello All,

I play bass in my Worship team. I wanted a pedal to thicken up my tone. Something that can fill some empty space. We currently have three singers, keyboardist, acoustic guitar, electric guitar and drums. Our healing service worship team only consists of two singers, keyboard and acoustic guitar and of course me on bass.

I was thinking of using either a chorus or a light overdrive pedal. Any suggestions are welcome. Something simple.

Thanks

Shaun
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Try a light OD or preamp pedal like a sansamp or vintage microtubes deluxe for tone modification. If you like your tone, and are just looking to thicken things up, try a reverb pedal. I use a Earthquaker Devices Dispatch Master which is reverb and delay. It can get muddy for more intricate patterns, but can be very nice for slower more melodic bass playing.

Also, your team could look into PADS on worshiptutorials.com. This can be a great tool for smaller bands and solo worship leaders. We use PADS 2 and 3 all the time.

Here's my full board for what it's worth.
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ODDBALL said:
Hello All,

I play bass in my Worship team. I wanted a pedal to thicken up my tone. Something that can fill some empty space. We currently have three singers, keyboardist, acoustic guitar, electric guitar and drums. Our healing service worship team only consists of two singers, keyboard and acoustic guitar and of course me on bass.

I was thinking of using either a chorus or a light overdrive pedal. Any suggestions are welcome. Something simple.

Thanks

Shaun
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Reverb may be what you're really after. Especially if it's a smaller room that lacks organic reverb, although Chorus can be nice too. Another fun thing is a volume pedal, and then you can do swells. Other then that technique is your friend. Things like chording up the neck, or playing octaves can all help fill empty sonic space. Also look at maybe getting a secondary keyboard so you can play Pads or something in places where bass just doesn't fit quite as well. Pads is pretty easy even if you don't play piano, you're usually just playing a couple notes and using the sustain pedal, you can even play bass over top of it a lot.
 
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ODDBALL said:
Hello All,

I play bass in my Worship team. I wanted a pedal to thicken up my tone. Something that can fill some empty space. We currently have three singers, keyboardist, acoustic guitar, electric guitar and drums. Our healing service worship team only consists of two singers, keyboard and acoustic guitar and of course me on bass.

I was thinking of using either a chorus or a light overdrive pedal. Any suggestions are welcome. Something simple.

Thanks

Shaun
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See if your keyboard can do pads during those parts. That's generally what is used in modern worship settings (e.g. Hillsong etc.). Otherwise, if you want to fill the space with bass I'd suggest something more ambient rather than "thickening" in my opinion. There are many ways to fill space and you have enough instruments to do it...I don't think bass should carry that role alone.
 
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ODDBALL said:
Please forgive me, but what is Pads?

You guys got it right. When we play in our healing service and it's no drums and no electric guitar we need a ambient type filler.

Shaun
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I play a lot in the summer with just AG and me with a couple vocals. It works fine. Do you need the keys in that setting?
Pads are basically chords played without rhythm, often used under prayers or to fill out some sonic space.

When we are in more of a full mode - usually 5 or 6 of us - we have:

AG or EG that sings some lead and background
Bass
Drums
Keys/vox that sings some lead and background
1 or 2 female lead/background singers

We used to have a piano player and AG that both sang. The piano player left to go to seminary and the AG had to move for his job. Fairly big losses but we've recovered pretty well. We don't have a really strong male lead singer, but we do have 2 really good female leads.
 

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