Worship Bass Pedalboards

[3toes]

Fascinating thread
What's everyone's favorite preamp/DI pedal

I love the SGT-DI, but I'm also a huge Ampeg fanboy. We have an Aguilar Tonehammer 500 on stage with a 210 cab, but I bypass the preamp on it in favor of the SGT. Not that I dislike the Aguilar tone, but I like the SGT better, and so does our worship pastor.

 

[oysterphish]

Those who have the Blume, does it suck out the low end?

 

[3toes]

Those who have the Blume, does it suck out the low end?

As with any drive/distortion pedal, the upper harmonics are prominent, but I definitely don't feel like I lose any low-end with it.

 

[bignc]

Moving on my Plumes and my Element. Listed them yesterday in case anyone is interested!

Down to my SR Turbo Tuner, Comp, Dirt and chorus. May grab a preamp. Kind of nice to keep it clean and simple since I REALLY should be working on my chops vs obsessing over "my sound."

 

[SteveC]

...I REALLY should be working on my chops vs obsessing over "my sound."

As should we all. But gear is fun so...

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

As should we all. But gear is fun so...

Guilty

 

[KevyKev]

I thought a bunch of pedals made us great bass players….have I been misinformed????

 

[SteveC]

I thought a bunch of pedals made us great bass players….have I been misinformed????

I like my setup now. It's almost like not having a bunch of pedals with a Stomp. But sometimes I think just bass to a good compressor to a good tube preamp/DI would be alright, too. I suppose that's what I have in the Stomp. Just not a "real" tube.

 

[bignc]

I like my setup now. It's almost like not having a bunch of pedals with a Stomp. But sometimes I think just bass to a good compressor to a good tube preamp/DI would be alright, too. I suppose that's what I have in the Stomp. Just not a "real" tube.

I put TAPES back on my Lb-100, plugged it in to the little TC bam and my revsound cab. I thought- "this is the sound" and emptied my sweetwater and reverb carts and searches and closed a bunch of tabs.

Now I want a preamp with aux-in that will play through headphones AND line out to the cab. I know the Magellan pre does that. Any others? I like having unusual gear.

Lil' Fella for dirt, Julia for chorus and the Rothwell Love squeeze are it for the moment. So not exotic but not totally normal either.

oh, and I have read a ton of pre-Amp reviews and threads, but not all of them talk about whether you can play aux-in through the cab or just headphones.

 

[oysterphish]

So in the IMA Sig, he's got Teemah! in parrallel with bass cut to 2.0. I hope I didn't divulge too much of a secret there, but I notice a loss of "oomph" when kicking on the drive. Not much, but it's there. Can that be dialed back in with a simple EQ after the drive? I simply can't put the bass cut at 0, because then the drive (Teemah!) sounds like a fuzz rather than drive, regardless of how one tweaks the gain.
I guess I just need help on how to use drive appropriately. I like it as a "boost" but I'm uncertain how loud it "should be." Again....when I set drives (any in the stomp) to unity with my clean signal, I get a little bit of a low end suck. Advice welcome for a hx newbie.

 

[oysterphish]

I thought a bunch of pedals made us great bass players….have I been misinformed????

That's correct: more = better bassist.

 

[KevyKev]

That's correct: more = better bassist.

Awesome! I was having self doubt and imposter syndrome. Now I know I'm an great bassist based on my pedal collection. WHEW! I feel better now lol

 

[FenrirofOld]

I thought a bunch of pedals made us great bass players….have I been misinformed????

With all the pedals on nobody can distinguish my mistakes. I think that's how it works anyway

 

[prndltech]

I thought a bunch of pedals made us great bass players….have I been misinformed????

no no… Your information is correct

 

[bignc]

That's correct: more = better bassist.

Awesome! I was having self doubt and imposter syndrome. Now I know I'm an great bassist based on my pedal collection. WHEW! I feel better now lol

With all the pedals on nobody can distinguish my mistakes. I think that's how it works anyway

no no… Your information is correct

No denying from me. But you guys misunderstood. Tons of gear makes good bass players into great bass players. It will be years before I reach the level where I'm comfortable being called a good bass player. Then I'll spend a bunch more money. Or more likely I'll be back here in six weeks asking about something else.

But still tell me what preamps you know that put the aux in through to the cab and not just the headphones.

 

[wolffire99]

So in the IMA Sig, he's got Teemah! in parrallel with bass cut to 2.0. I hope I didn't divulge too much of a secret there, but I notice a loss of "oomph" when kicking on the drive. Not much, but it's there. Can that be dialed back in with a simple EQ after the drive? I simply can't put the bass cut at 0, because then the drive (Teemah!) sounds like a fuzz rather than drive, regardless of how one tweaks the gain.
I guess I just need help on how to use drive appropriately. I like it as a "boost" but I'm uncertain how loud it "should be." Again....when I set drives (any in the stomp) to unity with my clean signal, I get a little bit of a low end suck. Advice welcome for a hx newbie.

Just turn the bass cut to 0 but in my experience this is too much of a bass boost.

 

[oysterphish]

Saw a Blumes at the local shop and decided to try it in the FX loop. Wow! Thanks to whoever mentioned it. Exactly what I was looking for. No more dark and wooly drives from the stomp. This guy is clear, open, and responsive.

 

[IanA]

So, I spent some time at church last night, primarily for rehearsals but also to compare the Mesa Subway Di to the Tonehammer Di.
A very interesting evening with some quite surprising results, I was expecting the Mesa to walk all over the Tonehammer…
I played the first few songs with the Mesa and then swapped to the Tonehammer.
The in ear tone both flat with no AGS and with AGS engaged and my settings was much easier to live with and dare I say it more musical and more mix friendly.

I stayed behind after rehearsal and did some A/B work with them playing around with different HPF settings on the desk and realised these two boxes are poles apart sound wise.

The Subway DI
Lower DI signal by around 8 db I reckon. Massive bass and low mid push compare to the Aguilar. A very immediate forceful slam when playing notes and what I can only describe as a hardness to the sound. Maybe similarities to the Carbine?
The Tonehammer DI by comparison in either mode sounds a lot softer and friendlier. It is warm but also crystal clear and with the AGS engaged and my settings, sounds perfect in a mix. It is well publicised that the Tonehammer DI has a significant roll off in the low and high end with AGS engaged, what was interesting was just how much sub low end content still comes through. The difference between HPF set at 30hz and 40hz was significant and I found myself being really happy with it at 30hz. The Mesa by comparison had to be rolled off from 40hz to give anything like the clarity to the low end that the Tonehammer delivered.
Maybe the 18v helps, maybe it is just a voicing thing or even a combination of the 2.
Anyway, ramble over, hope some of you find that interesting or helpful.
My conclusion is that for me and for the mix at our church the Tonehammer DI is simply in a different league, it is still after all these years a stunning piece of kit that delivers the goods and more than holds its own against newer shinier trendier boxes.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

So, I spent some time at church last night, primarily for rehearsals but also to compare the Mesa Subway Di to the Tonehammer Di.
A very interesting evening with some quite surprising results, I was expecting the Mesa to walk all over the Tonehammer…
I played the first few songs with the Mesa and then swapped to the Tonehammer.
The in ear tone both flat with no AGS and with AGS engaged and my settings was much easier to live with and dare I say it more musical and more mix friendly.

I stayed behind after rehearsal and did some A/B work with them playing around with different HPF settings on the desk and realised these two boxes are poles apart sound wise.

The Subway DI
Lower DI signal by around 8 db I reckon. Massive bass and low mid push compare to the Aguilar. A very immediate forceful slam when playing notes and what I can only describe as a hardness to the sound. Maybe similarities to the Carbine?
The Tonehammer DI by comparison in either mode sounds a lot softer and friendlier. It is warm but also crystal clear and with the AGS engaged and my settings, sounds perfect in a mix. It is well publicised that the Tonehammer DI has a significant roll off in the low and high end with AGS engaged, what was interesting was just how much sub low end content still comes through. The difference between HPF set at 30hz and 40hz was significant and I found myself being really happy with it at 30hz. The Mesa by comparison had to be rolled off from 40hz to give anything like the clarity to the low end that the Tonehammer delivered.
Maybe the 18v helps, maybe it is just a voicing thing or even a combination of the 2.
Anyway, ramble over, hope some of you find that interesting or helpful.
My conclusion is that for me and for the mix at our church the Tonehammer DI is simply in a different league, it is still after all these years a stunning piece of kit that delivers the goods and more than holds its own against newer shinier trendier boxes.

Great read.

My local guitar tech shop (Lull Guitarworks) has a TH500 head and GS410 cabinet in their showroom.

Simply stunning straight into the head, no pedals.

What are you using for a HPF?

 

[IanA]

Great read.

My local guitar tech shop (Lull Guitarworks) has a TH500 head and GS410 cabinet in their showroom.

Simply stunning straight into the head, no pedals.

What are you using for a HPF?

I was just using the variable HPF that is built into our sound desk.
I can control it all from an iPad. It is super easy to run a long XLR to part way down the auditorium, set up there and then manipulate the desk settings over WiFi.
I like to have HPF set to the room so it made good sense to do it that way