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Worship Bass Pedalboards

More experimenting and I think I REALLY like the Empress Bass Comp with the mid-bump color switch into the DCX Bass. That slight mid-bump complements the bass/treble controls happening in the DCX. Used with the Tone Hammer, the I preferred Empress Comp color switch simply off.

I kinda lurk here, just to see what people are trying out with their boards. I've found I also really like the color switch engaged on my Empress into my drives. I also just recently turned off the 'color' with the internal dip switch, and I think I prefer it that way, but the difference is subtle in my setup.

I'm also running an Empress ParaEQ mkii towards the end of the chain, and I did some A/B trying to see how things would sound with the EQ bump would sound at the end. With that mid bump post-drive they tended to sound a bit harsh, almost to the point that I'd rather not boost at that frequency. The downstream drives really like that extra bump into them at that frequency, they get more bite and it helps them cut through mix.

It's to the point that I've been looking at a dedicated mid-eq pedal (nano-para, maybe even a RFE) so I can try out different comps! I've also seen at least a couple people running something like the Aguilar DB 316 into a preamp with the typical 2 or 3 band EQ to have a little extra control. Try putting that thing earlier in the chain, ahead of your drives! Your clean sounds will be the same, and you might find something really nice happening.
 
Sounds great! Curious, do you guys use backing tracks at all?
A bit. Some of the synth/ethereal type of sounds. For pad we switched over to the Atmosphere and that thing is a game changer! HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend one. That keeps that constant pad w/ movement. Our Keys players trigger that at every song/key change. Other than that, we silence just about everything.

 
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I got a chance to mess around with my setup last night. (Free time? What's that?)
I was never really a fan of the saturation on the Tone Hammer.
But I knew my pickups were pretty hot and I tried a few different ways to pad the output. With a few db drop in output, into the Tone Hammer, it sounds amazing! Like, really really amazing.
So, I may roll with wireless -> passive volume knob pedal -> Tone Hammer -> Noble. I may put a Pedalnetics send/return after the TH in case I want to plug in other one off effects as needed.

I was hoping to find a skinny DI with input pad that I can stash under the board, but I'm not coming up with anything that will fit.
 
I've also seen at least a couple people running something like the Aguilar DB 316 into a preamp with the typical 2 or 3 band EQ to have a little extra control. Try putting that thing earlier in the chain, ahead of your drives! Your clean sounds will be the same, and you might find something really nice happening.
I've wondered about this DB 316, as well. Please report your findings if you get one.
 
A bit. Some of the synth/ethereal type of sounds. For pad we switched over to the Atmosphere and that thing is a game changer! HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend one. That keeps that constant pad w/ movement. Our Keys players trigger that at every song/key change. Other than that, we silence just about everything.

Thanks, I will check the Atmosphere out!
 
What? Are you allowed to post that in this thread? LOL......
Cool you found a gain structure to get the TH working for you.

Haha. I know. It was a risk.
But, it was just my bass and the TH not agreeing. I get it now.
Right now, it’s in the effects loop on the stomp with an eq patch to lower the input, then I use the volume on the TH to match levels going back in.
I’m going to try other options, but this is the best way with the gear that I have.
I did order a small volume knob pedal, so we’ll see.
 
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I always thought one of the things that makes DCX so good is the mild compression it provides at low gain.

Recorded a clean and another track with DCX and you can really see it in the waveforms.

The only added thing to the bottom track is the DCX, nothing else.

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So who's gonna be the first the buy the Anagram? I REALLY want to try it lol
I’m thinking hard. A source says they are a great all in one. Bass centric. Easy to use. Sounds good. 3 effects at your feet. Yeah, it’s expensive but it has a few things that the Stomp doesn’t (XLR out) and it doesn’t have a bunch of stuff (effects I’ll never use) the Stomp does.
 
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A bit. Some of the synth/ethereal type of sounds. For pad we switched over to the Atmosphere and that thing is a game changer! HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend one. That keeps that constant pad w/ movement. Our Keys players trigger that at every song/key change. Other than that, we silence just about everything.

So it looks like an amazing pedal! It also looks impossible to purchase? It says they do drops now?
 
Anagram might be the ticket, but it seems like it will be more complete after some updates. Only time will tell on that.

I moved on from the Tone Hammer 5 years ago. Was often finding the low end a bit too boomy and wasn’t in love with the AGS. Moved to Broughton (Messenger(s) and then the Studio One. Using more drive/distortion/fuzz pedals I use the LPF to tame the top end and can get the low end tightened up with the HPF. Works great for me but with how popular the Tone Hammer has been I have wondered if another try would change my opinion. I’m pretty happy with my current setup though, and like the flexibility with Studio One. I've harped on it enough but I was excited when the THv2 came out hoping they added a level knob for the AGS circuit, and when it was more of the same I decided to pass on it.
 
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The Anagram looks cool. It took me months of deciding to go with the Stomp, so I don't know if I'll be jumping in right away. One thing that kept running through my mind with the Stomp was that something new would come along and be the next big thing. I decided that that was always going to be the case and went ahead with it. Will the Anagram be the next big thing???

I am off for a few weeks, so I've been trying a bunch of different things. It's funny how fast things change. I went from trying to go smaller to getting out my big board. I don't know where it will end up, but my daily update is: the Tone Hammer into the Gladio is really nice. I have both of them set up in the effects loop on the Stomp. That way I can decide if I want saturation or stacked drive and can control it with one switch on the Stomp.
So, that is one thing that I didn't consider when I was thinking about moving on from the Stomp. It has a lot of utility value. I think I saw a Bryce Vaughn video where he was using the Stomp to control the BMS and not much else. I could be remembering that wrong, but that makes sense now.
The only pedal that I'm considering now is the Warm Audio Pedal76. I like the comp in the Stomp, but for some reason that pedal looks super interesting.
 
The Anagram looks cool but I have also been thinking about going back to just a tuner, comp and tube DI. I don’t use a lot of effects. But it’s expensive (maybe more) to go back than to just keep the Stomp, even if I don’t really make use of all the things.
 
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I have the Modele B, so if it's on my board, it has to be 'on.' Do you have any thoughts about the Modele B versus the standard Barbershop? I know the standard has a toggle switch, where the Modele B has a jumper switch inside. Any tonal differences?
I also found out that I can run it at 12v (maybe more) which works well for my needs. I doesn't seem to saturate as quickly.
I have a Modele B, and I never knew about the internal jumper!