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Worship Bass Pedalboards

As promised here's the video from last weekend. Adding the actual amp into the mix was fun. We have an amp wall behind stage where everything is mic'd up so there wasn't a ton of presence and feel on stage. Was lucky enough to have separate channels for my pedalboard and the amp in my IEMs to really use both. We set the amp to be extra pokey in the mids, and loud enough to start to actually excite the cones a little. It brought out some warmth that is somewhat missing a lot of the time, especially when the B3K is on. It just helps balance and tame the OD a bit having an amp and speakers. In the video you're getting a blend of the 2 signals. 2nd set of music comes in around the 1:06:00 mark.



I'll see if I can get my church to kick off with a little ACDC.

Sounds great, by the way.
 
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Ms-3 on Pedalboard today.
Its great.
 
Those look pretty interesting.
Yes Boss ms-3 is almost too good to be true.

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with TU3 > ms3 > compressor > preamp.
Mxr octaver in loop1 , Envelope in loop2.

Octaver in ms3 is not more than Ok, but hey, no one but me will notice anyway so think i sell it.
The wah Envelope thing in ms3 i haven't figured out yet but don't use it so often so a bit tweeking will do it.

Iwill put on a EHx SoulFood in the loop and I can now cut down to a Pedaltrain 16, and it'll still replace both my bass and guitar board. I play guitar in one band and bass in another.
The ms3 is a Space saver for me.
 
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Very nice indeed. One question, if I may... why the M3? You don't have a bunch of effects, so I'm curious as to why.
Reason why MS3. I have a bunch of pedals.
Thing is when I lead worship I play acoustic guitar and sometimes both. In my band I play electric guitar. With my other band I play Bass. My main instrument is bass but I'm probably using the guitar most of the time nowadays. I have three different pedalboards, one for bass and two for guitar. And I also got two multieffects boss gt1 and gt 1b. They didn't do the trick for me.
With the MS3 I can get rid of all my pedals and pedalboards. I'll only keep one overdrive og dist. and use the ms3 for bass and guitar.
 
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Reason why MS3. I have a bunch of pedals.
Thing is when I lead worship I play acoustic guitar and sometimes both. In my band I play electric guitar. With my other band I play Bass. My main instrument is bass but I'm probably using the guitar most of the time nowadays. I have three different pedalboards, one for bass and two for guitar. And I also got two multieffects boss gt1 and gt 1b. They didn't do the trick for me.
With the MS3 I can get rid of all my pedals and pedalboards. I'll only keep one overdrive og dist. and use the ms3 for bass and guitar.
Aha! That makes sense then - very cool. Thank you for the reply! Bless ya!
 
noproblem. Bless u.
The MS3 is really good and they've got everything I need inside there. And the different modes is cool and useful.
Only thing I wish is that the screen could be bigger and better.

Yea I know, Its Boss. But then again you know what you get.
Boss is all that - they are still going, still rocking and still innovating - no complaints there...
 
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OK as promised, the zoom signal path is as follows running from beginning of chain to the end:

160 Comp: Thrsh -10 Ratio 4.6 Gain 10 Knee set to Hard Level to unity (33 for me). Obviously there's a bit of personal choice you can put into your comp settings. That goes into...

ZNR: Noise reducer, we have a lot of power on stage and it makes a little buzz a lottle buzz. I use this, but I will swap this "pedal" out for other effects as needed. Next....

B-MAN: Bass 1 Mid 2 Trebl 1 Mid_F 630Hz Gain 31 Level 49 (Unity) Deep On Cab AG 8x10 Mix 0 (With the mix at 0 you can leave the cab blank. Occasionally I'll swap it with the cab on the next patch)...

SVT: Bass 3 Mid -8 Trebl 5 Mid_F 40 Hz Gain 40 Level 44 (Unity) Ultra Low Cab BM 4x12 Mix 76

Thats it in the Zoom, it's always on and the biggest factor (pedal-wise) to my tone. I use the Tone Hammer as DI and boost some high mids and treble (depending on how new the strings are).

Here are 3 clips of it in use. Obviously bass choice, pick vs finger and everything else plays a big difference but this shows how versatile it can be. No changes to the settings in any of these, just technique and adding the B3K in a couple areas. The first one is the most pure of the 3







All of those are great and I really like the tone you get in the Tin Man video shared previously. I loved the message too. In looking at the chain listed in your sig (MXR Bass Oct Dlx> Darkglass B3K> Zoom MS-60B> Aguilar Agro> Aguilar Tone Hammer> Ashdown ABM 500 w/ Custom 2x12), and reading the post about the zoom setting, it is easy to see that you like that pedal. I have been thinking about an Agro pedal and love DarkGlass stuff in general. I started to think about overdrive when I was talking to a fellow bass player about Call Upon the Lord and he said it sounded like an overdriven tone with lots of compression when the bass played. Synth, well thats another deal. My current chain is NM2>Super Symmetry>Octamizer/Chorusaurus/and/or Envelope>REDDI>FOH. OD not so much, to be fair the NM2 is OD/Fuzz, it just doesn't quite do that "growl" that I hear in your tone.

So, my question is, in relation to that growl you were getting on the first song in the Tin Man video, would you say that is the zoom primarily or the B3K or the Agro? Some combination thereof?
 
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All of those are great and I really like the tone you get in the Tin Man video shared previously. I loved the message too. In looking at the chain listed in your sig (MXR Bass Oct Dlx> Darkglass B3K> Zoom MS-60B> Aguilar Agro> Aguilar Tone Hammer> Ashdown ABM 500 w/ Custom 2x12), and reading the post about the zoom setting, it is easy to see that you like that pedal. I have been thinking about an Agro pedal and love DarkGlass stuff in general. I started to think about overdrive when I was talking to a fellow bass player about Call Upon the Lord and he said it sounded like an overdriven tone with lots of compression when the bass played. Synth, well thats another deal. My current chain is NM2>Super Symmetry>Octamizer/Chorusaurus/and/or Envelope>REDDI>FOH. OD not so much, to be fair the NM2 is OD/Fuzz, it just doesn't quite do that "growl" that I hear in your tone.

So, my question is, in relation to that growl you were getting on the first song in the Tin Man video, would you say that is the zoom primarily or the B3K or the Agro? Some combination thereof?

BassJuju, thanks for the kind words! As far as that first tune it's definitely a bit of a combo of things. The biggest factor in my tone (as far as pedals go) is actually the Zoom and the Tone Hammer. If you listen to the other songs in that set, that's what you are hearing (including the Tin Man song). On the Zoom I've tweaked the SVT setting that's really popular in the MS-60B patch thread, I'll post it at the bottom. Then the tone hammer has a slight boost to the treble to account for string age, and then a healthy boost in the mids with the mid freq set to about 2 o'clock. Then the B3k is added on top of that for the growly distortion you hear in the first tune. I usually keep the drive and blend below noon and the level to unity. Grunt switch and attack are both on as well.

As far as the B3k and Agro compare, the B3k is more bitey and defined while the Agro has more of the blown-out speaker type of distortion. Modern vs vintage respectively. My Agro has blown power supply (oopsie ran too many V into it), and I've enjoyed my B3K so much that in over a year I haven't fixed or replaced the Agro.

*** NOW, the BIGGEST, most important factor to my tone is mids. The tone has taken a while to get used to direct and in my ears, but it's a very balanced, flat tone with a boost in the 400-1khz midrange. Especially with 2 guitars and keys and synths and vocals... this frequency is key in our room to get any cut. It works really well in the mix as well. I let the room and FOH make up the bass they need. Our room is very boomy naturally with our system, so it doesn't take much to be overwhelming.

I hope that helps! Let me know if you have more questions.

Here is my patch on the Zoom MS-60B:

160 Comp: Thrsh -10 Ratio 4.6 Gain 10 Knee set to Hard Level to unity (33 for me). Obviously there's a bit of personal choice you can put into your comp settings. That goes into...

ZNR: Noise reducer, we have a lot of power on stage and it makes a little buzz a lottle buzz. I use this, but I will swap this "pedal" out for other effects as needed. Next....

B-MAN: Bass 1 Mid 2 Trebl 1 Mid_F 630Hz Gain 31 Level 49 (Unity) Deep On Cab AG 8x10 Mix 0 (With the mix at 0 you can leave the cab blank. Occasionally I'll swap it with the cab on the next patch)...

SVT: Bass 3 Mid -8 Trebl 5 Mid_F 40 Hz Gain 40 Level 44 (Unity) Ultra Low Cab BM 4x12 Mix 76
 
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New pedalboard setup on Sunday :)
It is a Pedal Pad AXS III in carbon fiber tolex. The build quality is great, and I love that it is hinged, and carpeted inside. You can attach a power block, or an always-on pedal underneath.

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Thats a beauty! I love the case... and the noble.... and the Cali... dang it Exalt! My bank account can't handle this!
 
New pedalboard setup on Sunday :)
It is a Pedal Pad AXS III in carbon fiber tolex. The build quality is great, and I love that it is hinged, and carpeted inside. You can attach a power block, or an always-on pedal underneath.

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Wow, Dave...nice pics, that really show how cool that case looks and functions. Would you consider it a light or heavy case? Really love it!:thumbsup: Oh yea...the pedals rock, too!;)
 
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Wow, Dave...nice pics, that really show how cool that case looks and functions. Would you consider it a light or heavy case? Really love it!:thumbsup: Oh yea...the pedals rock, too!;)

It is all plywood (1/4"?) With hardware. not a lightweight. It was 17 lbs. shipping weight. Really solid box, so probably 15 lbs net. With the Noble and the Aetos power supply and the other pedals, it weighs a fair amount.
 
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Gonna put this in the Worship bassist club as well, before the classifieds.. to give you brothers and sisters first dibs..

I unfortunately am having eye surgery next month and have to let some gear go.. due to having to drop almost 6 grand out of pocket..

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Pedaltrain mini w/ soft case..
Noble pre /DI.. :crying: ..
Providence Anadime Bass chorus..
MXR Bass Comp..
Korg Pitchblack mini..

I also have a fEARful 12/6 , and a D Lakin JO first run.. and a Mono Vertigo gig bag
PM me for more details , thanks guys
 
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Gonna put this in the Worship bassist club as well, before the classifieds.. to give you brothers and sisters first dibs..

I unfortunately am having eye surgery next month and have to let some gear go.. due to having to drop almost 6 grand out of pocket..

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Pedaltrain mini w/ soft case..
Noble pre /DI.. :crying: ..
Providence Anadime Bass chorus..
MXR Bass Comp..
Korg Pitchblack mini..

I also have a fEARful 12/6 , and a D Lakin JO first run
PM me for more details , thanks guys

How well does the pitchblack lock on the low B? I have used some pedals that don't deal with the B all that well.
 
Gonna put this in the Worship bassist club as well, before the classifieds.. to give you brothers and sisters first dibs..

I unfortunately am having eye surgery next month and have to let some gear go.. due to having to drop almost 6 grand out of pocket..

View attachment 2785017
Pedaltrain mini w/ soft case..
Noble pre /DI.. :crying: ..
Providence Anadime Bass chorus..
MXR Bass Comp..
Korg Pitchblack mini..

I also have a fEARful 12/6 , and a D Lakin JO first run.. and a Mono Vertigo gig bag
PM me for more details , thanks guys
Sorry to hear about your surgery mate. I hope all goes well.