LOL considering we live about 2 miles from each other, it took us way too long.
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Worship Bassists Unite
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LOL considering we live about 2 miles from each other, it took us way too long.
There are only a few worship artist I like. Most worship music to me is pretty boring. im more into PRAISE upbeat groove songs.
Remember Terry Clark from the 80's ? I loved his suff. He use to be an X gangster or something. His worship music is excellent.
Darryll Evans is THE MAN when it comes to worship. I saw him live a few years back. The presence of God was so thick in that place.
Im an outer court christian to be honest with you. I go into the holy of holys from time to time, but mostly enjoy the outer court. I like knowing God is in the neighborhood
I definately stay in His shadow.
I really dont want to play at church though, in a worship setting. Id rather be out in a touring band like Demon Hunter, playing hard core christian rock. Loud and heavy.
Remember Terry Clark from the 80's ? I loved his suff. He use to be an X gangster or something. His worship music is excellent.
Darryll Evans is THE MAN when it comes to worship. I saw him live a few years back. The presence of God was so thick in that place.
Im an outer court christian to be honest with you. I go into the holy of holys from time to time, but mostly enjoy the outer court. I like knowing God is in the neighborhood
I definately stay in His shadow.I really dont want to play at church though, in a worship setting. Id rather be out in a touring band like Demon Hunter, playing hard core christian rock. Loud and heavy.
Great thread, I've played in church for years, currently in a church really blessed to have a brand new purpose built building...its awesome but bring its own challenges, going from small church to 1000+ every week is a big change (in fact terrifying at first).
Also I just posted the following thread, http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4639641&posted=1#post4639641 if any of you guys have played with a click track in church then let me know (see thread for details) could really use some advice!
Also I just posted the following thread, http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4639641&posted=1#post4639641 if any of you guys have played with a click track in church then let me know (see thread for details) could really use some advice!
Oh Hey Exalt-
What did you think of Gail? The keyboardist. She has an amazing voice, no?
Absolutely! Also, an excellent songwriter.
Unlike a lot of worship team keyboard players, (who never played in a band) she also knows how to keep her left hand out of the bass players way. Sometimes I want to strap their left hand to their thigh!
Unlike a lot of worship team keyboard players, (who never played in a band) she also knows how to keep her left hand out of the bass players way. Sometimes I want to strap their left hand to their thigh!
Absolutely! Also, an excellent songwriter.
Unlike a lot of worship team keyboard players, (who never played in a band) she also knows how to keep her left hand out of the bass players way. Sometimes I want to strap their left hand to their thigh!
LOL yeah, seriously.
Absolutely! Also, an excellent songwriter.
Unlike a lot of worship team keyboard players, (who never played in a band) she also knows how to keep her left hand out of the bass players way. Sometimes I want to strap their left hand to their thigh!
This weekend our keyboarder, which is also the leader, stopped during rehersal and said, Oh guess I was playing over your part.
First time for everything
We have a newish worship leader (been there for six months) and things are getting better. He's changing tired arrangements of songs with otherwise great lyrics. He also starts songs sometimes in the bridge and not always the beginning or chorus - whatever makes a better transition between the songs.
The next step has to be parts.
We all know what we're supposed to play but we all usually play at the same time. The sound gets a bit dense. I remember hearing Paul Baloche talk about what he called the 100% equation (I think). If everyone in a band plays all of the time there's no space for the song to breathe. If there are four band members theoretically they should each play about 25% of the time. I think the idea is that, if I'm not playing every not I could possibly play, the notes I do play will have more of an impact.
How would you suggest I trim down my parts? What do you do so that you're not playing all of the time?
The next step has to be parts.
We all know what we're supposed to play but we all usually play at the same time. The sound gets a bit dense. I remember hearing Paul Baloche talk about what he called the 100% equation (I think). If everyone in a band plays all of the time there's no space for the song to breathe. If there are four band members theoretically they should each play about 25% of the time. I think the idea is that, if I'm not playing every not I could possibly play, the notes I do play will have more of an impact.
How would you suggest I trim down my parts? What do you do so that you're not playing all of the time?
This is a great book for orchestration and worship teram stuff in general...well, actually, band stuff in general.
http://www.amazon.com/Praise-Worshi...2050359?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189105205&sr=8-6
The best thing is to actually sit down and work thru a song, decide who'll come in when. Don't just do everyone all the time.
i.e.
V1 guit/vox
Ch guit/vox/drums(pings and dings)
V2 guit/vox(perhaps w/ harmony)/drums (pings and dings but a little more)
Ch guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fuller)/bass(simple strong)/keys
V3 guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fullest)/bass(more complex strong)/keys
Ch guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fullest-even more)/bass(more complex strong)/keys(change chord voicings)
Ch(repeat) Climax of song
V1 guit/vox
You get the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/Praise-Worshi...2050359?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189105205&sr=8-6
The best thing is to actually sit down and work thru a song, decide who'll come in when. Don't just do everyone all the time.
i.e.
V1 guit/vox
Ch guit/vox/drums(pings and dings)
V2 guit/vox(perhaps w/ harmony)/drums (pings and dings but a little more)
Ch guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fuller)/bass(simple strong)/keys
V3 guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fullest)/bass(more complex strong)/keys
Ch guit/vox(harmony too)/drums (fullest-even more)/bass(more complex strong)/keys(change chord voicings)
Ch(repeat) Climax of song
V1 guit/vox
You get the idea.
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Thanks! I think I'll talk to my worship leader about parts soon.
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I'm thinking I might need to change out all of my music to Christian stuff. My music collection is one of the last places that God doesn't have much access. It's tough because I've spent a lot of time and energy collecting it all. My ipod contains almost 5200 songs!
I listen to a lot of classic rock and alternative and metal. Some of my favorites are:
Foo Fighters
Lenny Kravitz
Led Zeppelin
Lynyrd Skynrd
Rush
Any suggestions?
I listen to a lot of classic rock and alternative and metal. Some of my favorites are:
Foo Fighters
Lenny Kravitz
Led Zeppelin
Lynyrd Skynrd
Rush
Any suggestions?
this is essential to remember - i hate it when i hear a band play - and everyone is playing everything - it can sound so messy - lets look at a worship band, Christian Band and a mainstream band and decide from there
Worship - Chris Tomlin - Graet band and musicans always allow space for eachother - they are more focused on a group overall sound rather than parts- sensititve and sensible especially when in church!
Christian contemporary - Delerious - Solid and simple drums, Bass - Solid and not flashy, Lead Guitar - flashy and exciting with nice layers, Vocals and rhythmn/acoustic - very well structured and not too interfering with the lead guitar
Mainstream - The Police - Very simple sound but full trio but never ever too much.
The band stay focused on leaving space for eachother - you never hear a stuggling suffocating sound always smooth and never lacking a groove
There has to be space in a bands sound - whether your the best bassist or worst bassist in the world it depends on how you fit in - it doesnt mean we just play root notes all the time but it means we have to be sensitive to the enviroment and all the other sounds that are in the atmosphere.
I use some lics and scales to funk up songs and i always chuck in some chords for good measure - but i always know my place.
When im in a three piece playing rock/alternative/worship - i play alot of grooves but im also solid for the drummer and i leave space for the Guitarist to rip!
When im in a 10 piece worship group i just hang on the root note and have fun with scales and chords, when its appropriate!
When i play in a Inter church worship band in large venues i play 1/4 of the mix as there are 4 of us - i leave space for all the instruments and i aim to be a solid but groovy force in the mix - my aim is to keep the mix tight!
Remember its not about showing off its about using our gift in a appropriate manor!
Hey folks -
Since I'm considering replacing secular CD's with Christian CD's I thought I might share about a great service that I've been using for the past couple of years. It's called LaLa.com and they facilitate CD trades. They aren't straight across trades, though. You put the CD's you've got on your Have List and the put CD's you want on your Want List. When a CD on your Have List matches a CD from someone else's Want List you can ship it to them and you get a credit that allows you to receive a CD from someone else. They supply shipping envelopes and CD holders. It costs $1.75 per CD you receive from someone else - nothing to ship to someone.
Since I'm considering replacing secular CD's with Christian CD's I thought I might share about a great service that I've been using for the past couple of years. It's called LaLa.com and they facilitate CD trades. They aren't straight across trades, though. You put the CD's you've got on your Have List and the put CD's you want on your Want List. When a CD on your Have List matches a CD from someone else's Want List you can ship it to them and you get a credit that allows you to receive a CD from someone else. They supply shipping envelopes and CD holders. It costs $1.75 per CD you receive from someone else - nothing to ship to someone.
I don't think it's bad either. I'm not trying to be legalistic, but my spirit isn't being fed by what I'm listening to.
I'm thinking I might need to change out all of my music to Christian stuff. My music collection is one of the last places that God doesn't have much access. It's tough because I've spent a lot of time and energy collecting it all. My ipod contains almost 5200 songs!
I listen to a lot of classic rock and alternative and metal. Some of my favorites are:
Foo Fighters
Lenny Kravitz
Led Zeppelin
Lynyrd Skynrd
Rush
Any suggestions?
Check out these christian/contemporary bands
Caleb rowden
Starfield
Mutemath
Life in your way
The supertones - amazing ska/punk with a rhcp feel!!!!!!!!!!
Titus - Foo fighter/nirvana/grungy
Delerious
Planetshakers - great worship with brilliant bass lines and solos
Electralyte - Wickedly good - Mod kinda sound
Phil joel - solo artist in a home studio - GREAT!
Tim hughes - sweet worship
I used to own a christian music shop so i have heard it all!
Thanks! I'll check them out! If you've owned a Christian music shop then you're the guy I need to talk to about this.
very true i know all type of christian bands from metal to solo chilled acoustic just ask for a opinion on a particular style and youshall recieve!
