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Yamaha Peter Hook Signature Bass

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Looks right at home with the others. I still prefer the old BB body shape, aesthetically at least, but the BBPH looks great. How do the body shapes differ in terms of feel and playability (as in, which bass do you have an easier time getting up to that 21st fret for the Perfect Kiss?).
i don't really notice a difference with the body shapes. i don't have trouble getting to the 21st fret on either of them. the second bb300 has even better access.
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what makes more difference is the weight. the bb1200s is 11lb 1.125oz and the bbph is 8lb 14oz. (the bb300 pictured is 8lb 8.875oz).
the lack of a passive tone knob on the bbph may be a good thing. that is where i sometimes plant my fingers and occasionally the knob gets in the way.
 
i don't really notice a difference with the body shapes. i don't have trouble getting to the 21st fret on either of them. the second bb300 has even better access.
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what makes more difference is the weight. the bb1200s is 11lb 1.125oz and the bbph is 8lb 14oz. (the bb300 pictured is 8lb 8.875oz).
the lack of a passive tone knob on the bbph may be a good thing. that is where i sometimes plant my fingers and occasionally the knob gets in the way.
That's the version of the BB300 I have. It was an adjustment switching to the BB1200 after using the 300 for awhile. I don't really have an issue getting to the 21st fret either on the BB1200, but with my BB300 it's super easy to get up there.

Weight is definitely an aspect that favors the new BBs, the old BBs are absolute shoulder/neck/back killers. The tone knob being combined with the treble EQ control never bothered me, it keeps things efficient and clean, and there's little trade off.
 
the post below has a graphic which compares the new BB with the BB1200/1200S/2000 and previous BB (414,424,1024,2024 etc)
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Hi everybody!

I can reassure you that new body is smaller than both original 1977 BB and recent BB2024 model. Here's the silhouette comparison: (new BB is black, original BB2000 is red outline and recent BB2024 is green outline). Cheers!

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the post below has a graphic which compares the new BB with the BB1200/1200S/2000 and previous BB (414,424,1024,2024 etc)
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Wow, comparing the original BB body with the new one, I didn't realize how much deeper the lower cutout is on the new body. In your picture it doesn't look that much deeper than the old design. I had always thought the upper horn was extended on the newer BBs but instead it looks like it relatively stayed about the same length the past 40+ years, give or take half an inch.
 
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given that this is a bass player's forum, this is the best place to discuss with the 1% that can hear, differentiate and articulate the minute sonic details.

Agreed! I wasn't suggesting at all that we don't discuss it—I'm really glad samples of both were posted so I could hear the differences—I was just trying to put some context onto that difference. Definitely different (as noted, more zing), but the difference is small enough that I think it's also reasonable to discuss what that difference is really worth.

As someone who already owns a 734a, it's not a big enough difference to get me to spend an additional $1200 on a BBPH; but I did think about it and I can certainly imagine why someone else would.

In the spirit of continuing discussion on the difference between the two, I do think it's intriguing that the only real differences in construction are the reverse P and the tweaked preamp, and what you get for that is a subtle but audible difference. What I'd really love to know is how much of that is just the reversed P and how much of that is the preamp.

Why? Because you can basically buy the 1200S preamp in a box from Master Effects. And because reversing the P pickup is a mod that a decent luthier should be able to pull off without too much trouble...
 
I figure since we're showing off our basses...
No BBPH, but there's my 1200s, 1000s, and Eastwood. Even though no one asked for verification, I've also included a picture of the back of my 1200s just to prove it's the one I claimed to own a few posts ago.

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Nice collection. I have to ask though, what's up with the printer paper labels?
 
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Well I can't argue with that logic. I see you added your own string guide too, was it buzzy before hand?
Both Yamahas came that way, but talking about the Eastwood? Yeah. I got one from the first batch (no string trees and a badly cut nut) and the string retainer helps with buzz a lot. It does prevent me from using lower gauges on the high B and E though.
 
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