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Yes, this is ridiculous.....

Not being an electric guitarist myself I (honestly, not rhetorically) wonder what their reasoning is. I mean, I suppose they use pedals for distorsion, and not drive the heads to clipping. Or do they?!? With that much cabbing it must be airplane runway -grade noise they're making.
I know he utilizes distortion and overdrive and other effects.... depending the song. Myself, I use overdrive on the head. I also use distortion from a pedal for a little bite when I use a Wah pedal.
 
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Ridiculous.... but true.

My guitarist just finished building his 3rd 100watt Marshall stack for our live sound. I'm a little concerned he will be drowning me out.... I use a Hartke Kilo with twin AK410 cabs. I figure, I have one of three choices.
1) Get 2 more cabs, probably 15"s. I wouldn't be able to bridge them, due to impedance. But, I believe I could run the 410s on one side and the 115s on the other in stereo mode. That would be 2 x 350watts @ 4 ohms.
2) Get a 2nd rig...... yikes $$$!
3) Always rely on P.A. support to balance things out.

Any thoughts?

The rigs in question....
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That's just hilarious. Easy solution.... Don't help him move it. He'll get tired of moving it eventually. In my band we gigged with a ampeg 810 and Mesa oversized recto cab for a decade. These days I'm rocking a modified 410 with upgraded speakers and our guitarists is using a 5150 212 combo. And we aren't a blues band. We play hard rock and metal. Does he not realize even huge touring bands use what's called dummy cabs and ISO cabs? Dummy cabs are empty cabs with no speakers that are used as stage props. No sound guy is going to put up with that that kind of stage volume and personally I think band scrims are much more professional.
 
That's impressive but a bit ( alot) of overkill.

Does he schlep it all around himself or do you guys have to help?

If so... You may have some day.

Btw... Is that a variable voltage transformer on the lower left of the picture? Why does he need that?

As for your original question... See what you can do with the PA.... If that works... You got a solution... If not then you may need to buy more equipment... But let's hope not
I asked him what that was... he said, and I quote, "That is a VARIAC. I have a power conditioner for spikes and cleaning the sin wave then the VARIAC for putting in an exact 120VAC. I set up the bias for the amps to be at 70% with 120 VAC input. AC changes from location to location. I've seen it drop to 110 in some places and as high as 127 in others. That will easily change the bias by as much as 10% which is real apparent."
 
I asked him what that was... he said, and I quote, "That is a VARIAC. I have a power conditioner for spikes and cleaning the sin wave then the VARIAC for putting in an exact 120VAC. I set up the bias for the amps to be at 70% with 120 VAC input. AC changes from location to location. I've seen it drop to 110 in some places and as high as 127 in others. That will easily change the bias by as much as 10% which is real apparent."
Eh, I play in a doom band that uses loud tube amps. We've never babied our gear to that extent. It's not that apparent, at least, not at the volumes we play at, and most rooms have way more effect on the sound than the power.
 
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My guitarist just finished building his 3rd 100watt Marshall stack for our live sound. ...

The rigs in question....
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Every time I look at this picture I want to sigh "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" like Jan Brady. Is that so wrong?

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Nah, he I wouldn't trade him for anybody. He is a great guitarist, good friend and a great guy. Hard to find people like that.

Frankly, if he's a great guitarist, he should know about those things in the first place. If he's a good and close friend he would be able to listen to other close friends constructive criticism. That's why I choose my close friends. One can be very acerbic to each other without either taking any offense. Friendly banter. If he takes - serious - offense by you giving him some recommendations like "hey, no more" he's not a close and good friend. I used to say to those guys with "over-achievment" and alpha male tendencies that I have yet heard anyone getting better as a guitarist when buying one more stack, they DO actuallly takes offense. Their strutting and self esteem takes a hit, they feel offended by it. And thus, inside they know it's true when push comes to shove. They rather quit the band and starts a new one being their own BL, and then as the years go on, they'll never get any gigs. And they still don't know why. The very sad and baleful thing about it, is that it carries on right up through the ages. Even if they hit 50 years old they carry on, thinking that such a rig will get them anywhere. The season, mature and experience will not bite. Experience? They'll have no experience because that BL didn't get any gigs. In spite of demos, and hustling for gigs. Strutters and show offs. Me myself, never wanted or longed for Ampeg SVT and 8x10. I thought "where are those gigs?". When that times comes, so be it. Don't need it, and yes I've tried it, but no. No reason. I do have had a 4x12 cab and a 50W head on top. A half stack. I thought that was overkill.;) That was as strutty as I'd get in my late teens.

There was one or two occasions where ther was rented backline outside of our responsibility, and they had stacks both for guitars, and and Ampeg 8x10 rig. I plugged in, but did what the FOH sound man told us all. We complied and followed recommendations.

- - - - - - - Anecdotal story - - - - - - -

Even legendary gtrd Frank Zappa was told by his FOH sound man to turn it down. He recorded albums with just a PIGNOSE amp, and some effects, and then when - once - live, he hired som new guy at the desk, and went to him after soundcheck and told him "sure everything's plugged in?" and the FOH guy had told him several times to turn it down during soundcheck, when managers came up to him and told him "Hey, don't ever ask Frank to turn it down...it's his show" and he DIDN'T listen. Later on when they played back a recording of the show (with dummy heads) it sounded so much better than all his previous gigs. Even Frank who was a nitpicker for great sound, followed and obliged to some other guy, not even being his close friend. You can tell your "friend" some stories about his favorite guitarists how they proceed.

Only occasionally, has there been huge well known gtrds that refuses to turn down. Of one which is not very surprising, and one which are very much a surprise. Ted Nugent, and Eric Johnson. Nuge is not surprising, but it is surprising to tell you that the humblest and nicest guy of them all, Eric Johnson, still plays ONE 100W Marshall stack flat out. I dont think EJ plays arenas anymore, but House Of Blues kinds of clubs. Mid to small clubs. He doesn't even play metal or anything remotely closed to hard rock.

He can't stuff them away and mic them up, but has to do his feedback and so on. I do have read that Slayers (or was it Anthrax?*) guitarist once just tried out some wall of stacks for real, just as an ad for the brand he was sponsoring. He did wore earplugs. They just changed out those phoney dummy stacks to real one and connected in series or something. No one else could be at the stage (outdoors) at the same time. It's probably on the YT somewhere.

On the bass side, there's only Lemmy who refused to turn anything down, any time. That's why Motörhead always suffered from too poor live sound (seen them 3-4 on festivals with other acts, and they always sounded the worst, and that's outdoors).

Also, to make balanced, and kudos to your tribute project, in spite of Sabbath's popularity waning - actually - in the Dio years and after, it has been recognized by others that Iommi had the greatest tones, coming out from his fingers during this era.

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*could've even been late Dimebag Darrel.
 
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Frankly, if he's a great guitarist, he should know about those things in the first place.
Even legendary gtrd Frank Zappa was told by his FOH sound man to turn it down. He recorded albums with just a PIGNOSE amp, and some effects, and then when - once - live, he hired som new guy at the desk, and went to him after soundcheck and told him "sure everything's plugged in?" and the FOH guy had told him several times to turn it down during soundcheck, when managers came up to him and told him "Hey, don't ever ask Frank to turn it down...it's his show" and he DIDN'T listen.
Only occasionally, has there been huge well known gtrds that refuses to turn down. Of one which is not very surprising, and one which are very much a surprise. Ted Nugent, and Eric Johnson. Nuge is not surprising, but it is surprising to tell you that the humblest and nicest guy of them all, Eric Johnson, still plays ONE 100W Marshall stack flat out. I dont think EJ plays arenas anymore, but House Of Blues kinds of clubs. Mid to small clubs. He doesn't even play metal or anything remotely closed to hard rock.
On the bass side, there's only Lemmy who refused to turn anything down, any time. That's why Motörhead always suffered from too poor live sound (seen them 3-4 on festivals with other acts, and they always sounded the worst, and that's outdoors).

You've named some great guitarists (and a bassist) who didn't listen, even though they should (:
 
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Not being an electric guitarist myself I (honestly, not rhetorically) wonder what their reasoning is. I mean, I suppose they use pedals for distorsion, and not drive the heads to clipping. Or do they?!? With that much cabbing it must be airplane runway -grade noise they're making.

As Sartori said, I play in a doom/heavy metal band. We cater to people who enjoy that experience. I would love to get by with one head and a 215, but that is not what we are doing. In other groups that I've played in and am starting to play in, I can use far less rig. I always wear ear plugs when performing and viewing bands of a similar style.

As per the leads rig. He uses a 72 and 73 Marshall. Not sure of the specific model, but I know they are 100w. He boosts with a TS and a Rat for crunch.

Airstrip is a good metaphor.
 
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I asked him what that was... he said, and I quote, "That is a VARIAC. I have a power conditioner for spikes and cleaning the sin wave then the VARIAC for putting in an exact 120VAC. I set up the bias for the amps to be at 70% with 120 VAC input. AC changes from location to location. I've seen it drop to 110 in some places and as high as 127 in others. That will easily change the bias by as much as 10% which is real apparent."


That is a very exact variable transformer.... Usually used in labs.

Not really sure he needs it for his post the top mega stack!

Anyways....

Have fun... Sorry this is so crazy!