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Yes, this is ridiculous.....

Tell him he's lame, until he gets this stack:

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Ridiculous.... but true.

My guitarist just finished building his 3rd 100watt Marshall stack for our live sound. I'm a little concerned he will be drowning me out.... I use a Hartke Kilo with twin AK410 cabs. I figure, I have one of three choices.
1) Get 2 more cabs, probably 15"s. I wouldn't be able to bridge them, due to impedance. But, I believe I could run the 410s on one side and the 115s on the other in stereo mode. That would be 2 x 350watts @ 4 ohms.
2) Get a 2nd rig...... yikes $$$!
3) Always rely on P.A. support to balance things out.

Any thoughts?

The rigs in question....
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Option 4) Quit. Seriously if he doesn't get any louder, and its all just for show then just let him do what he wants to do. But if I was in a band where all of a sudden I wasn't loud enough with the rig you already have then I would be packing up.There is a point where getting louder doesn't sound better, and starts costing you gigs because no venues where I live would put up with that. Never mind the noise it takes up too much stage space, and if he even asked me to help him move it I would give him the finger.
 
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No, that fact that you play "large outdoor events" is NOT A "defense" of carrying such a ridiculous setup. The only way he'll "get it" is if you don't play his game.

Keep your rig as is. Stand right in front of it and don't move. When superstar asks you why you aren't doing acrobatics like him just tell him if you take three steps in any direction all you hear is guitar.

He does not ever "need" 300W and 24 speakers to hear himself......ever.

As suggested before, if you want a "serious" answer to your question....here goes.

You need to line out from your head I to a series of PA power amps. You also need an 8-10 cab for every 4-12 he has to be louder....but at least an 8-10 for every stack to even have a chance of competing. Also, two wedges dedicated to bass hitting you in the face at the front of the stage wouldn't hurt. Have fun with that.
 
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Option 4) Quit. Seriously if he doesn't get any louder, and its all just for show then just let him do what he wants to do. But if I was in a band where all of a sudden I wasn't loud enough with the rig you already have then I would be packing up.There is a point where getting louder doesn't sound better, and starts costing you gigs because no venues where I live would put up with that. Never mind the noise it takes up too much stage space, and if he even asked me to help him move it I would give him the finger.
Nah, he I wouldn't trade him for anybody. He is a great guitarist, good friend and a great guy. Hard to find people like that.
 
Yeah, my thoughts are that if your guitarist has 3 100Watt Marshall 2 x 4x12 stacks, and he uses that to play out, and you are not working with a pro sound company to provide audio reinforcement (and you actually have paying gigs vs just wanting +100dB stage volume), then it's time to hire a professional company to help you out. Otherwise, from a bass perspective, honestly there is little you can do to keep up in the nearfield (you can catch up with volume 30+ meters out with stacks of 15's and 10's), and no one in the audience is going to like it if you do that.

Honestly, to me, it's sort of a silly question, but it will generate lots of fun responses.

I like the pignose reply.
 
Large outdoor events have great PA systems. Tell him to use 1 cab and rely on in ears or his monitor. We have played arenas before and our guitarist used a 1x12 Mesa boogie 30 watt tube amp. No need for big rigs in 2016 unless you are playing a venue with a weak PA system. Even then maybe 1 full stack he can get away with but I would hate to be the sound guy trying to make the band sound decent.
 
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Nah, he I wouldn't trade him for anybody. He is a great guitarist, good friend and a great guy. Hard to find people like that.

Then why post?
If you’re willing to put up with that kind of stage volume the obvious answer for you is to get more amps and speakers.
Do you really have side fills that could get you loud enough?
I’m assuming you are an instrumental band as the vocals never have a chance if the guitar is run anywhere near potential volume unless all you play is stadium gigs.
 
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