You think the audience doesn't notice? Think again!

[Son of Wobble]

Then,
GO AND GET IT!

What are your waiting for???

Working on it! So far i got the pajamas

 

[mobdirt]

Now, we are getting closer to my point.
Once again, when you are hired, you must comply with the regulations in the contract (written, assumed, implied, etc...).
And, usually, you don't need to play any (significant) role in marketing, promoting your music.
You just pack your instrument (if you pack yourself), get in the bus, and go to hotel, bar, etc...

yes i pack and carry all my own gear (bass and backpack)

 

[Son of Wobble]

Dear Son of Wobble,
I doubt that you understand the circumstances when a musician has a regular gigs at the same venues.
And yes, sometimes(!) you are invited to the table, and sometimes it's very difficult to say NO (due to various cultural traditions, behavioral patterns).
And I understand that it's much easier and more secure to play in the bedroom.

Should I tell you my early memories from playing Gypsy funerals for three days and three nights and the music could stop only for MAXIMUM 10 minutes?
P.S. We used to make about/above $3,000 for that gig in the late 70's, 80's...

Boy, you really showed me!
Humbled by your greatness, Sir!

 

[mobdirt]

Working on it! So far i got the pajamas

we have to start somewhere

 

[mobdirt]

i bet he wore them under his pants at the gig

 

[Son of Wobble]

i bet he wore them under his pants at the gig

Yea....awesome idea...and velcro stage clothes so you can rip em off whilst legging it to the car so as to make your Great Escape in a Blur from that geat ignorant and unwashed beast that is your public. A pox on them!

 

[mobdirt]

Yea....awesome idea...and velcro stage clothes so you can rip em off whilst legging it to the car so as to make your Great Escape in a Blur from that geat ignorant and unwashed beast that is your public. A pox on them!

the thrill is in the escape not in making fun of the audience i dont feel that way but i am totally making that velcro/pajama thing a new years resolution finally theres one i think i can actually do

 

[Son of Wobble]

the thrill is in the escape not in making fun of the audience i dont feel that way but i am totally making that velcro/pajama thing a new years resolution finally theres one i think i can actually do

I was being ironic about the contempt for the audience thing, of course...I am always gracious toward audience even if only for fear of reprisal, lol...

But I do come from the OG L.A. punk scene, where performers like Stan Ridgeway of Wall of Voodoo mocked the audience throughout the set....of course, the audience were spitting all over his suit....good times!

 

[mobdirt]

I was being ironic about the contempt for the audience thing, of course...I am always gracious toward audience even if only for fear of reprisal, lol...

But I do come from the OG L.A. punk scene, where performers like Stan Ridgeway of Wall of Voodoo mocked the audience throughout the set....of course, the audience were spitting all over his suit....good times!

gotcha
ya all audiences are not the same you cant deal with them all in the same way
i have never been to gigs that wild, wrong place

 

[Son of Wobble]

the thrill is in the escape not in making fun of the audience i dont feel that way but i am totally making that velcro/pajama thing a new years resolution finally theres one i think i can actually

Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols did a noteable 1982 NYC gig at the Ritz with his subsequent band, PIL, where he found a window vantage point to mock the crowd and spit at them as the stood in line. They put up with it until the got inside to find he had not brought a proper band, and intended to keep mocking. Then they tore the place apart.

All this earnest Springsteen-like serve the audience stuff is of course commenbable. But the crazy rock i liked best was about shock tactics and foiled expectations....but I guess such antics fade into the past, and were in ant case remnants of 19th century, shock--the-bourgeoisie theaterics.

 

[dukeorock]

I was being ironic about the contempt for the audience thing, of course...I am always gracious toward audience even if only for fear of reprisal, lol...

But I do come from the OG L.A. punk scene, where performers like Stan Ridgeway of Wall of Voodoo mocked the audience throughout the set....of course, the audience were spitting all over his suit....good times!

Saw Stan with Wall of Voodoo many times back then. Great live band, I thought. I’m originally from Socal and early punk was my thing. Nothing to do with the OP, but yeah, there were some amazing shows. Cramps, X, etc

 

[mobdirt]

maybe its a good thing i never been to gigs that wild

 

[pwhalen]

EDIT: Sorry if posted in the wrong forum. Had no idea where to post it.

Did a gig last night at an outdoor venue at The Villages in Fla (a big giant retirement community) that I play once a month, and we get a lot of regulars. I've been using my Hammersmith with a very dead set of Dunlop Super Bright Nickels there pretty much exclusively most of the year. Tonight I got a wild hair and brought out my modded 76 Precision with a newish set of the same strings instead. Both these basses have Geezer PJ's, and to me they sound about the same when the strings have comparable wear. Everything else was the same as usual...REDDI into the PA, same pedals I've been using all year set the same way and used in the same songs, same sound tech we usually have there and the same PA, which is a decent but not particularly great PA (a souped-up and somewhat customized Bose PA...one of the bigwigs of the Bose family lives at the Villages and has the ear of the family who owns the Villages).

I probably had 20 people who are regulars at our gigs come up to me on break and ask me how come the Fender sounded so much edgier and aggressive than the Hammersmith. Only one of them plays an instrument, and while most were guys, plenty of women said the same thing.

So if I ever hear any of you jokers try to claim that the audience doesn't know or care about your sound again, I will tell you that you're a very arrogant person who has zero respect for your audiences. Of course, I have been saying that for years, but now I've got proof. A big outdoor venue with about 3000 people there in various states of inebriation, and several non-musicians noticed that the strings on the Fender made it sound edgier.

The lesson I learned is I need to change my strings more often The lesson YOU should learn is that if you think your audience is so stupid that they can't tell the difference in your sound no matter what you use, maybe they're not the stupid ones.

Happy holidays, everyone!

So, 20 out of 3,000. Can we say less than 1% will notice?

 

[Whousedtoplay]

I was being ironic about the contempt for the audience thing, of course...I am always gracious toward audience

I knew that all your comic/sarcastic/ironic/etc... comments are just for the Comedy Central Audience.
And, of course, I would not call it "trolling". No, no, no.

 

[maturanesa]

At the end I still think Jimmy is wrong.

Don´t caring about the audience's opinion on your bass tone doesn't mean you are disrespectful.
He thinks doing what you want with your sound is a crime against the audience.
I dont agree.
A musician shows respect giving the 100% in the performance.
But he is free of using the sound he wants and giving a **** about a random guy opinion about that.
Audience are not bass techs.

 

[Son of Wobble]

Saw Stan with Wall of Voodoo many times back then. Great live band, I thought. I’m originally from Socal and early punk was my thing. Nothing to do with the OP, but yeah, there were some amazing shows. Cramps, X, etc

Cramps, exactly. You thought the singer, Lux, might kill you.
His last gig in London, in his sixties, he was THROWING cymbals and stands at the audience and the music newspaper reviewer said it was shockingly dangerous, that someone could easily have been seriously injured.
The critic gave the gig five stars lol

 

[mobdirt]

already feeling better about myself please go on and big thanks for this thread first the velcro/pajama idea now this, pure gold

 

[Pilot604]

Im pretty anal about my bass tone, and put on a new set of strings each night. When in the studio I put on a new set every song. Probably why I’m asked to play A lot. Your tone is critical to the bands sound!

 

[Son of Wobble]

I knew that all your comic/sarcastic/ironic/etc... comments are just for the Comedy Central Audience.
And, of course, I would not call it "trolling". No, no, no.

Just put me on ignore
Works great!
I use it all the time. People that annoy you just evaporate, problem solved. It is a really good way to optimize your TB experience.

As for your characterizing me as a troll, whatever. Can't say I've noticed you once in all the years I've been here. You must be on DB?

 

[Whousedtoplay]

By my math that comes out to 0.667%.

20 out of 3,000. Can we say less than 1% will notice

20 people out of 3000 is 0.67%.

It's just the reality for 99.99% of your audience. So .01%

and so on...

We have a lot of mathematicians at this forum.

No wonder the bass players are very smart!