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Your feeling towards bands. The covers and orignals discussion.
- Thread starter Ian the bassist
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whocaresnotme said:
I think most people feel that way about every lawyer in the world...except, of course, for the one representing their interests.
Actually that is just my opinion. I wouldn't expect you to agree.
A cheesy B&G that provides live music doesn't seem like a useful target to me. Does it to you?
well, with an original band, if your really into it, and have the talent, mean and opportunity, there might be a shot to make it big. think about it, if everybody only played covers then, who is to write new music?
I'd rather listen to an awesome cover band than a crappy original band. Any day.
I haven't done many cover acts, but done a few gigs that were great and a lot of fun. I normally spend most of my time on originals, but that has a whole different level of complication in terms of getting the ball rolling. If you 'make' it, you'll get a whole different level of respect and would have earned it. My phrase to you then is, 'here's a cookie'
But seriously, I'll make sure it's a good cookie.
But as for the show themselves, if you are pumping a vibe I dig, I couldn't care less who wrote it. I primarily place my interest by genre, not by songwriting credits. That is just me.
I haven't done many cover acts, but done a few gigs that were great and a lot of fun. I normally spend most of my time on originals, but that has a whole different level of complication in terms of getting the ball rolling. If you 'make' it, you'll get a whole different level of respect and would have earned it. My phrase to you then is, 'here's a cookie'
But seriously, I'll make sure it's a good cookie.But as for the show themselves, if you are pumping a vibe I dig, I couldn't care less who wrote it. I primarily place my interest by genre, not by songwriting credits. That is just me.
That may be true and there is with sound evidence to support it. Even the lawyers on your side will squeeze every nickel out of you. But, we digress don't we.
If they were given the opportunity to purchase a license and explained that without the license they couldnt provide live cover bands........... then proceeded to ignore the warning.... Yes. It seems far from frivolous
Oblige me a minute. Actually, you have provided a better argument for me. Since we are talking about PROFIT for the original artist and beyond the altruism that you have injected that as musicians we should protect the musical arts, why am I obliged to help pad the bottom line for anyone if there is no pay off for me. Should I be able to extract a fee from each artist that I list on my play list because I am helping him/her to make more profit? Seems to me that if I am working on their behalf that I could legitimately ask for a fee. I am basically NOT a volunteer sort of person if someone is making a profit on my volunteerism. I want to share in the profit. I would gladly take a penny for each song I played over the years.
Your thoughts?
That is pretty shallow thinking, brother. Sounds kind of fascist to me. Sounds a lot like Tony Soprano shaking down a club for protection money doesn't it. Hence my use of the word "extortion" (oops and I guess it is "legal"). "Hey, yo, you wanna play some music over here. Then put some Ben's in my hand. You know what I'm talkin' about". That pisses me off!!
I think the point he was making is that since the artist has provided you with the songs that you got paid on..... the least you could do is submit the playlist so that ascap can properly distribute the royalties.
Most original bands I hear are poor/weak players. Their tunes are arrangements of something thats been played. Play in some decent cover bands to at least know how to play well then try and write something.
One more point. At your day job the employer provides the venue and the product that you sell for the company. The trade off is that you get paid to make the transaction. You don't do that for free do you?
But you better give the man who did a lot of legwork for YOU a penny as well!
You're not working on their behalf. You're using their intellectual property in your own venture.
By playing the song I would be providing him/her with 5 cents. I want one penny back to submit the report. If you think that is extravagant we can negotiate. I am willing to share in the profit, sure. That is how money works in America.
Not really. That would be like your employer taking money back out of your paycheck as a fee for providing you with a job.
