Thanks, bugeyed earl. any patch I've created on the zoom b3 patch ideas thread can also be used on this thread as well. especially since the zoom b1on has the same effects as the zoom b3(other than the corona chorus model that is).
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Zoom B1Xon Settings Thread...... OMG
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Thanks, bugeyed earl. any patch I've created on the zoom b3 patch ideas thread can also be used on this thread as well. especially since the zoom b1on has the same effects as the zoom b3(other than the corona chorus model that is).
I have a MS-60B that they'll probably work fine on also, I use that one more often than my b1on.
The ms-60b does have some effects as the zoom b3 and the b1on, but the selection is considered limited compare to those multi-effects processor. but other than that, it will work great on the ms-60b.
Fiddling with my new Zoom, the manual, and the web, I can’t find any signal bypass setting except the tuning mode. From what I read I could make a new patch without any effect - but that is a bit silly. Or isn’t it? Simply put: how on earth do I all switch effects OFF...?
Which Zoom?
Tuner mode works fine, why not use it?
I use it on my B1on and the bypassed sound is very clean, I can’t hear the difference between the sound of my bass straight into the amp and the bypassed Zoom in tuner mode.
Yet, I ended up making an always on compressor and Eq setting, so I really don’t turn my Zoom
Off anymore.
First thing to do is have a look at this thread and install the ToneLib editor. Free editor for Zoom pedals: B1on, B1Xon, MS-60b
There is an effect called "Bypass" that magically appears if you delete all other effects from a patch.
There is an effect called "Bypass" that magically appears if you delete all other effects from a patch.
BX1on
But then - so it is correct that as long as your bass sound goes through the pedal, there is always some effect or patch ‘on’ ? Only way to get an instant ‘clean’ bypass is activate the tuner? Defining a new effect or patch and then stomping 47 times to find it during a gig sounds rather impossible...
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Most of the patches are ok to demonstrate what sounds you can achieve but I only found about 6 that I would actually use and then I tweaked them to my liking. I moved those into a group so there is minimal stomping to move around them.
You could put a bypass patch in between each effects patch that you use so it would only take one pedal press to reach a bypass patch.
How many patches would you go through during a gig? Why not set up a "central" bypass patch, and the other patches you would use above and below that?
Or several bypass patches, every certain amount of patches with effects. You get plenty of available patches with these little boxes.
Do you play 47 songs in a gig?
Seriously, it’s a question of organizing the patches in a logical order.
I don’t have that problem since I rarely switch effects in a same song and I use my B1on with other pedals as well, which are dedicated to be turned on and off.
Using the ToneLib software, there’s a patch called “bypass” which is exactly that. ToneLib makes it really easy to copy and paste it into other patches, and delete effects from patches, so you can just wipe out whatever effects are in a preset patch, and insert bypass as an effect. Then replicate it it as many times as you like on other presets.
Yo guys - made my own Bypass patch (I could even delete the bypass ‘effect’ ;-) with the nice app ToneLib, and defined it as A0. Easy to change the patch order and rename. A1 will indeed be my only and next/near patch, because I only use very few effects anyway. You would say that a regular pedal-like on/off switch would be made possible by Zoom, but it work like this as well.
Maybe but as said above the tuner bypass is essentially the same thing. It’s not as practical because you have to hold it for a second, I get that. On one of my boards I put one of my MS-60b’s in a true bypass loop pedal so I have an external switch. It’s handy not only as a stomp switch but really nice being able to scroll patches while bypassed. Zoom made the most out of the fewest controls on these pedals, so there are definitely trade offs like this.
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@Crystalman85
I was trying some more of your effects, liking the Bartolini and MEC simulators the most.
Can we have an EMG setting next please?
BTW how do you even begin creating these patches? You hear a sound and you now immediately what to select?
One remark: on the Zoom B1on the exciter effect has a range of 0-100 so the values you show should be taken x10.
I found it strange that you were using it with such low values, having no audible effect for me. I figured out the difference by reading the B3 manual.
I was trying some more of your effects, liking the Bartolini and MEC simulators the most.
Can we have an EMG setting next please?
BTW how do you even begin creating these patches? You hear a sound and you now immediately what to select?
One remark: on the Zoom B1on the exciter effect has a range of 0-100 so the values you show should be taken x10.
I found it strange that you were using it with such low values, having no audible effect for me. I figured out the difference by reading the B3 manual.
@Crystalman85
I was trying some more of your effects, liking the Bartolini and MEC simulators the most.
Can we have an EMG setting next please?
BTW how do you even begin creating these patches? You hear a sound and you now immediately what to select?
One remark: on the Zoom B1on the exciter effect has a range of 0-100 so the values you show should be taken x10.
I found it strange that you were using it with such low values, having no audible effect for me. I figured out the difference by reading the B3 manual.
Glad you enjoyed the patch ideas. and I think I may of thought of an emg patch idea when I've had the zoom b3. I have to look at my notes to find it. to answer your question, yeah kinda. I pretty much experiment with some effects and amp models to create a patch and arrange them in a particular order to make the patch sound more accurate.
on the exciter effect, I think that 0-100 range you've mention is the level control. from what I know, the exciter controls consist of bass, treble, and level. it has the same controls as the bottom b, only they sound different from each other obviously.
also most of the effects on the patch ideas I've posted were just default settings. the whole idea of my patch ideas thread is that you can use the patch ideas and if desired, adjust the effect settings to your liking. so feel free to adjust the settings to your liking on your zoom b1on or b1xon.
If I remember correctly, this is how I've made a patch that closely duplicates emg pickups
znr: tresh: 10, detect: gtrln, level: 90
exciter: bass: 3, treble: 4, level: 90
mxr bass d.i: bass: 3, mid: 2, treble: 4, gain: 70, blend: 50, level: 100, color: on, chan: clean
znr: tresh: 10, detect: gtrln, level: 90
exciter: bass: 3, treble: 4, level: 90
mxr bass d.i: bass: 3, mid: 2, treble: 4, gain: 70, blend: 50, level: 100, color: on, chan: clean
Here's a patch idea I came up with that closely duplicates john entwhistle's overdriven bass sound from the who's 1978 concert.
Hiwatt bass drive
znr: thresh: 17, detect: efxln, level: 100
d comp: sense: 3, tone: 4, level: 100, attack: fast
tube screamer: gain: 50, tone: 70, level: 100, balance: 35
hartke: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 250hz, tube: 50, level: 50, comp: 2, cab: bm4x12, mix: 50
Hiwatt bass drive
znr: thresh: 17, detect: efxln, level: 100
d comp: sense: 3, tone: 4, level: 100, attack: fast
tube screamer: gain: 50, tone: 70, level: 100, balance: 35
hartke: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 250hz, tube: 50, level: 50, comp: 2, cab: bm4x12, mix: 50
Here's a patch I've created that's loosely based on the tech 21 oxford.
oxford bass
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
m comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss obd-3: gain: 5, tone: 25, level: 100, balance: 25
sansamp bass driver: bass: 3, treble: 2, presence: 0, gain: 25, blend: 75, level: 100, mid: 7
oxford bass
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
m comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss obd-3: gain: 5, tone: 25, level: 100, balance: 25
sansamp bass driver: bass: 3, treble: 2, presence: 0, gain: 25, blend: 75, level: 100, mid: 7
Here are 2 patch ideas I've came up with that closely duplicates the metal sounds of an empress heavy.
Empress metal bass
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
M comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss metal zone: gain: 50, tone: 45, level: 100, balance: 40
svt: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 300hz, gain: 40, level: 45, ultra: both, cab: ag1x15, mix: 40
Empress metal bass 2
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
m comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss metal zone: gain: 50, tone: 45, level: 100, balance: 40
gallien-krueger: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 300hz, gain: 45, level: 90, color: mid, ag1x15, mix: 40
Empress metal bass
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
M comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss metal zone: gain: 50, tone: 45, level: 100, balance: 40
svt: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 300hz, gain: 40, level: 45, ultra: both, cab: ag1x15, mix: 40
Empress metal bass 2
znr: thresh: 14, detect: efxln, level: 90
m comp: thresh: 20, ratio: 5, level: 90, attack: 7
boss metal zone: gain: 50, tone: 45, level: 100, balance: 40
gallien-krueger: bass: 4, mid: 4, treble: 3, midfq: 300hz, gain: 45, level: 90, color: mid, ag1x15, mix: 40
