I really like the recessed power jack. I know it's not like the 9V jack is a high-failure point for pedals-- but if the 9V is mounted right on the circuit, and you step on it & flex that solder joint, or you just flex the whole board it's not ideal. With the jack recessed, it protects the pedal & circuit from that particular damage. But yea, you have to have a plug that fits it.
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Zoom MS-60B+ (a compact B2-Four?)
- Thread starter Al Krow
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The recessed port isn’t a dealbreaker for me. I did have to go out of my way and now wait for a new cable for my power supply. But I’ve been messing and playing with pedals for years now. Gigged a lot back in the day. Transported my board hundreds of times of the years. Never had issues with a power input failing. Not once. Just sayin.
But I digress. I would’ve bought the pedal either way. But I did notice it as soon as I tried plugging it in outta the box. I was like doh! I will say this though, it’s nice you have the option to power it with the USB-C. So that’s cool.
But I digress. I would’ve bought the pedal either way. But I did notice it as soon as I tried plugging it in outta the box. I was like doh! I will say this though, it’s nice you have the option to power it with the USB-C. So that’s cool.
If I used a Mackie Mix5 as a headphones/aux from the MS-60B+, I wonder if it would be louder. While I love my little B1four for practicing along to tracks, the volume is pitifully low. (Using AKG 553 MkII, 32ohms)
Maybe more of a mixer use question, I suppose, but it's a common complaint with the B1-4, as it uses the same output for line and headphones.
Maybe more of a mixer use question, I suppose, but it's a common complaint with the B1-4, as it uses the same output for line and headphones.
I'm excited because I just ordered one, I should have it in a couple of weeks from now.
I would love to ditch two or three pedals from my pedalboard with this thing, but I'm not sure which ones will be... In your experience with the first generation and this new one, what are your top five favorite effects that the 60b+ offers? Also, is the tuner on it easy to use and accurate?
I would love to ditch two or three pedals from my pedalboard with this thing, but I'm not sure which ones will be... In your experience with the first generation and this new one, what are your top five favorite effects that the 60b+ offers? Also, is the tuner on it easy to use and accurate?
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I'm still teetering on the brink of buying one of these. It's cheap enough, but I'm not sure the MS-60B+ is going to sound any better than the B1 Four I already own.
Has anyone been able to do a comparison between the quality of the sounds in the B1 Four vs the MS-60B+? I'd appreciate any insights.
If they're "much the same", then the B1 Four probably still better meets my needs - portable, battery operated, full range of FX and cab sims and IRs that I can build into patches. I think the B1 Four's greater ease of footswitching up and down, and its display which simultaneously shows all the effects in a patch, make it overall "better" for my needs.
Has anyone been able to do a comparison between the quality of the sounds in the B1 Four vs the MS-60B+? I'd appreciate any insights.
If they're "much the same", then the B1 Four probably still better meets my needs - portable, battery operated, full range of FX and cab sims and IRs that I can build into patches. I think the B1 Four's greater ease of footswitching up and down, and its display which simultaneously shows all the effects in a patch, make it overall "better" for my needs.
For what it's worth:
I don't own a B1, but I do have a B6. I find they sound quite similar. Of course it dials in like the old 60B and not like the B6, but it's hard to tell the difference between the 2 once set up properly.
From what I learned the B2 gets pretty close to the B6 and thus, in my opinion, the 60B+ as well. So I think the question you should ask is: : 'Is the B2 better for you than the B1?' If the answer is yes or slightly so, then the low price (compared to a full B2) may convince you to upgrade or at least add it next to your B1. If not, stick to the B1. But this is just my opinion. In the end it's your call to make.
I know it's not the comparison you needed, but it's the best I can do. Sorry I can't be of more help.
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If anyone is interested.
https://www.talkbass.com/classifieds/zoom-ms-60b-and-a-jhs-summing-amp.1659388/
Im not selling because it sounds bad or is hard to use. It sounds great, and is super easy to navigate. I’m going back to analog, because it suits the bands I’m in better.
I play in a Motownish band, a Funk/Soul band, and at Church, so I use FX almost never. I need Drive, Compression, and an old school, basic tone, so I caved and ordered a JHS Punchline.
If you’re curious, you should pickup a B+. It is a really great box.
J!
https://www.talkbass.com/classifieds/zoom-ms-60b-and-a-jhs-summing-amp.1659388/
Im not selling because it sounds bad or is hard to use. It sounds great, and is super easy to navigate. I’m going back to analog, because it suits the bands I’m in better.
I play in a Motownish band, a Funk/Soul band, and at Church, so I use FX almost never. I need Drive, Compression, and an old school, basic tone, so I caved and ordered a JHS Punchline.
If you’re curious, you should pickup a B+. It is a really great box.
J!
i've been looking for a preamp/XLR DI to go with my 60B+
the Punchline looks great
sorry to see ya go, JD
Oh, I’m sure I’ll be back! I’ve owned the 60B (OG) at least 6 times, had a B3, a B3N and a 70CDR (OG).
i'm still struggling to find a decent IR/Preamp/XLR DI box.
i want to love the OPUS, but gak, GENOME amps are so noisy.
the DynIRs are dead silent though.
really shows how quiet the MS-60B+ is.
That’s right what Darkglass ADAMs are going for used, currently: I never in a million years would have considered that to be a preamp that I would be interested in, but the Amos Heller and Jayme Lewis demos made me realize how good it could sound in a mix.
Plus it’s got a ton of features, not the least of everything you listed.
Ampeg SGT-DI is also about $300, used.
The market for Preamp DIs with loadable IRs is an odd one: there’s the NUX Melvin Lee Davis, which does everything you need, at half your budget, new, then there’s basically nothing less than $400.
Do you have an OPUS? It seems like that would cover your requirements.
Nice call with the Adam. I'll check it out.
Ampeg might be a contender as well.
Feature-wise, the Opus is perfect.
But playing with Two Notes Genome software, the amps are especially noisy.
I shouldn't mind since the DynIR section is dead quiet, with other great features.
And small formfactor.
I just want it all and then some.
That Adam, though.
Again, nice call. Thanks
Let me know of anything up to 500.
I'm assuming the MS-60B+ sounds the same as the B2 Four as it has the same specs, and almost the same block list.
I didn't spend much time with the B1 Four, but the compressors weren't fast enough. My memory is that the signal quality wasn't as nice on the B1-Four as it is on the B2 Four. But I didn't do any A/B'ing or science to back that up. I have to imagine that the new convolution is better-- but less configurable (hard-wired amps-to-cabs).
FWIW, I like the preamps inside the B2 Four, so with that, you have a good pre and a good DI. The downside of the B2 Four is that the signal to the DI out is identical to the main outs-- so you have to send amp-sim to both or neither-- dumb.
Have you looked into a CabZone Bass? Super simple to use, great cab and power amp sims, quality DI, no knob twiddling needed. No EQ, but the power amp/cab sims give you a lot of diversity in tones, with the twist of a dial (10 cabs, 10 power amp).
it's still on my short list.
we chatted about the Cabzone - they are back in stock through Shiftline.
at this point, it's either the Opus or Cabzone.
or just my trusty old J48.
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