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Zoom MS-60B announced... at last

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but dont most guys want metal housings, truebypass, holygrail chips and capacitors with carbon comp resistors? zoom doesnt do that, so why wast time tryn to sound like a studio recording where they didnt use zoom? just asking, dont want to sound like a jerk sorry shouldnt have said anything

I suppose because everyone's goal isn't to "sound like a studio recording". There's more uses for effects pedals than that! :)
 
i know. im into effects for all the reasons you guys are. but im not into Zoom or plastic tone for that mater #lol #imo

I understand. I'm not into plastic tone either. Have you tried a B3 or MS-60b?

Again I'm not saying the MS-60b I just got has the BEST tones I've ever heard, but many of the sounds are good- particularly some of the delays, reverbs and filters.
 
but dont most guys want metal housings, truebypass, holygrail chips and capacitors with carbon comp resistors? zoom doesnt do that, so why wast time tryn to sound like a studio recording where they didnt use zoom? just asking, dont want to sound like a jerk sorry shouldnt have said anything

Zoom used to be a bit down the ladder, but with the latest products they a very much useful and good soundng. It just takes a while to change an image. People who trust their ears and have some self confidence can use a Zoom pedal even if others sneeze at the name before even listening ... ;)

It's also one thing to play live, and another to do a studio recording. A boutique pedal may well be a waste of money live, in terms of sound, compared to a multieffects pedal. The bragging rights is another matter ... :p
 
i know. im into effects for all the reasons you guys are. but im not into Zoom or plastic tone for that mater #lol #imo

What is plastic tone?

I've had my MS-60B for a bit more than a month now. I bought it because I've never really been into effects much and watched a few videos comparing the zoom models to the original pedals. The models were close enough that I figured it would let me explore a wide variety to eventually replace it with the actual real pedals. My experience so far is that there are enough usable effects in this pedal that I won't need to get the "real" pedals any time soon.
 
i know. im into effects for all the reasons you guys are. but im not into Zoom or plastic tone for that mater #lol #imo

I get what you're saying (minus the hashtags) and I really grew to loathe digital vs analog after owning a few Digitech multi units, but digital has come an amazingly long way since those little beasts were released. I used to have a cool little Zoom multi unit that was released about the time the POD's were gaining popularity and wish I could find another, because it sounded great. Some of the digital stuff released in the last few years has really shed the "plasticine" tone some describe.

That said, I think there are some things like compression, that are still best left analog. But as far as distortion and some filtering go, alot of the newer stuff is pretty impressive and natural sounding.
 
edit: I did some more experimenting with multi-unit effects (say, reverb + filter + octave for example) switching: by putting the "Line Selector" unit as the 1st Unit in a patch - you can use it to turn on/off all the effects units in that patch simultaneously! Just make sure Line Selector is showing on the LCD & stomp the footswitch. Just set the 'Dry' output for unity gain with your instrument and "Efx" to how loud you want the effects on to be. Works great!

(I misspoke in an earlier post)
 
edit: I did some more experimenting with multi-unit effects (say, reverb + filter + octave for example) switching: by putting the "Line Selector" unit as the 1st Unit in a patch - you can use it to turn on/off all the effects units in that patch simultaneously! Just make sure Line Selector is showing on the LCD & stomp the footswitch. Just set the 'Dry' output for unity gain with your instrument and "Efx" to how loud you want the effects on to be. Works great!

(I misspoke in an earlier post)

I'm going to try this. I was STILL struggling with making work in my chain but maybe now I can get it to work. Well see. I just got a looper for my board so when it comes I probably won't have room for it. May just use the zoom as a stand alone when I home practicing.
 
maybe i haven't been out shopping for new stuff in a while, but zoom is a laughing stock where im from. imho

Where is it that you're from?

Like I said in my initial post in this thread, I've been skeptical of Zoom myself, but as someone who makes a living playing bass (heck I'm not even posting anonymously here)- I think I can use this pedal.

That's where I'm from. You're starting to sound a bit 'trollish' in your posts, bassystarship99.
 
just my quick off the cuff comment about my personal experiance w/ zoom products. maybe i shouldnt have said anything. for the record im a collector of unique and limited production, hand made stuff. zoom just doesnt fit into MY collection. Sorry for chiming in on your thread. :atoz: just my opinion and a question...sorry

It didn't sound like a question to me. Just sayin....
 
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