hey everyone! i haven't been playing bass long, but one of the first things i bought was a zoom b3! looking forward to seeing all the things i can do with it.
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OK, my GAS list has been completed. Just ordered a B3 and it should be here within a few days.
Why did I buy it? And was it really gas?
I wanted 3 things mainly and this pedal delivers on all fronts (and at a great price)
1- looping. Sure it's only one loop but can be layered so I think that'll be fine for me.
2- Synth. Out of all pedal effects I mainly wanted synth. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
3- USB interface. I can run a 1/4-1/8 into my mobo and it's fast enough any delays/latency isn't noticeable. But plugging that adapter in makes it stick out 6 inches (back of tower too-is a pain). Usb is nice and clean up front.
(having drum loops is also nice addition, won't have to make loops in Hydrogen) (We'll see if included software is better than Audacity)
I wouldn't really call it gas. I'm not doubling up anything I already have, it's just stuff I need.
OK, my GAS list has been completed. Just ordered a B3 and it should be here within a few days.
Why did I buy it? And was it really gas?
I wanted 3 things mainly and this pedal delivers on all fronts (and at a great price)
1- looping. Sure it's only one loop but can be layered so I think that'll be fine for me.
2- Synth. Out of all pedal effects I mainly wanted synth. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
3- USB interface. I can run a 1/4-1/8 into my mobo and it's fast enough any delays/latency isn't noticeable. But plugging that adapter in makes it stick out 6 inches (back of tower too-is a pain). Usb is nice and clean up front.
(having drum loops is also nice addition, won't have to make loops in Hydrogen) (We'll see if included software is better than Audacity)
I wouldn't really call it gas. I'm not doubling up anything I already have, it's just stuff I need.
I didn't see this post before!
I have a Zoom B1 (or B1.1, I don't know, the one with the expression pedal). It has nothing to do with the new B3 (the B3 is just awesome!).
It was a present from my friends after 6-7 months playing bass (5 years ago). It served me well. At the time, it was amazing (to me). Now, it's a little meh. It has cool features but the sound it's not as good as the new versions. Besides, the out connector broke (it is made of plastic) so I stopped using it. Three months ago I opened the pedal to check what was broken, and I fixed it. Now I use it to test effects and see if I can add pedals in my pedalboard. I don't consider it a part of my pedalboard for live shows, but it helps me a lot now that I'm looking for new effects (and to play at home
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Zoom has some nice products
I have a Zoom B1 (or B1.1, I don't know, the one with the expression pedal). It has nothing to do with the new B3 (the B3 is just awesome!).
It was a present from my friends after 6-7 months playing bass (5 years ago). It served me well. At the time, it was amazing (to me). Now, it's a little meh. It has cool features but the sound it's not as good as the new versions. Besides, the out connector broke (it is made of plastic) so I stopped using it. Three months ago I opened the pedal to check what was broken, and I fixed it. Now I use it to test effects and see if I can add pedals in my pedalboard. I don't consider it a part of my pedalboard for live shows, but it helps me a lot now that I'm looking for new effects (and to play at home
)Zoom has some nice products
I recently got a B9.1ut in trade and am really digging it. Question for those that have experience with them and Ableton Live(which I'm also a complete newbie to), can I configure the B9 as a midi foot controller to trigger tracks/samples in Ableton? Ultimately, I'd like to be able to use it live to trigger soundscapes between songs using the B9 and my MacBook. Is this possible, if so how? I can't seem to get it with the info from the Midi section of the manual.
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I recently got a B9.1ut in trade and am really digging it. Question for those that have experience with them and Ableton Live(which I'm also a complete newbie to), can I configure the B9 as a midi foot controller to trigger tracks/samples in Ableton? Ultimately, I'd like to be able to use it live to trigger soundscapes between songs using the B9 and my MacBook. Is this possible, if so how? I can't seem to get it with the info from the Midi section of the manual.
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Let us know if you find out. That would be cool if you could. The impression I get is that the B9 can be controlled by another MIDI controller but not act as one. I would be more than happy to be wrong about that. I will be using the Pedal Synth on the B9 for synth sounds in a new project I'm in and if it could work beyond that it and trigger sounds from the soft synths we are contolling from a standard keyboard controller that would be fantastic.
I found this on a Japanese Zoom site FAQ Link Removed:
Q: Can I use the B9.1ut as a controller for an external MIDI component?
A: Yes. Patch switching information and pedal/switch/key information can be output and input via MIDI. For details on MIDI settings for the B9.1ut, see the section "MIDI Usage Examples" on pages 42 - 51 of the Operation Manual. For information on MIDI settings for the other component, see the documentation of that product.
Unless I'm misinterpreting, but I just can't figure out how
I'm gonna try some more today but I'm also new at Ableton Live.
OK, so it does look like it is possible. I only got as far as being able to trigger a MIDI clip to launch in Ableton Live 9 Beta off my Mac Air. With the pedal synth up and running I was able to map any of the notes to launch a MIDI clip. There are issues I'm encountering (MIDI clip output, stopping the clip) -but I have a feeling it's due to not understanding the Ableton software more than the features of the Zoom. @KPJ if you have a better understanding of MIDI and the software you are using, you'll probably get it to work.
I'll have to check it out. It has been a few years since I have tried to do some of the things that I would like to do now and the hardware I was using previously was different.
Cool, I'd be interested to hear how it goes for you. I got it to work as needed in Ableton with three audio tracks. Using the pedal synth patch, each track is assigned to its own note. The only thing is the synth notes still sounds when triggering so I have to mute them with the volume pedal (I'll have to remember to bring the volume pedal back up when I switch to the next patch to start playing
). The output from my Mac is currently run into the aux-in of of the B9, that might change but I am going to try it at rehearsal Monday night to see how it sounds with the band. Alot of my initial reasons for going with the B9.1ut was for economical reasons and convenience - not having to purchase a ton of pedals, DI, tuner, etc... but figuring out this feature really confirmed that it was a great decision to get the B9.1ut.
A little dissapointed with the B3's USB function.
I assumed that plugging in the USB would allow me to hear my bass through the speakers of my computer since that's what a USB device does. So I either have to plug into USB AND my sound card (the main reason I wanted a USB device- easy access front panel, no huge adaptor/cable sticking out tweaking my jack), or USB AND my amp or USB and Headphones.
Serious *** zoom.
But when I plug in the USB it over rides my speakers anyway. I just can't get sound through them.
I assumed that plugging in the USB would allow me to hear my bass through the speakers of my computer since that's what a USB device does. So I either have to plug into USB AND my sound card (the main reason I wanted a USB device- easy access front panel, no huge adaptor/cable sticking out tweaking my jack), or USB AND my amp or USB and Headphones.
Serious *** zoom.
But when I plug in the USB it over rides my speakers anyway. I just can't get sound through them.
Teijo K.
Commercial User
When you plug in the usb cable between B3 and computer, it changes the B3 in to a sound card. So instead of hearing your bass through the sound card of your computer, you hear your computer through your B3. But naturally you need to plug amp and speakers in to the B3.
But I could just plug my bass directly into my sound card before with NO discernable latency. So now I have to plug in the USB AND something into the sound card. That defeats the point of the B# being a 'USB interface'.
I can NOT plug in the USB cable and get the same exact function. I just run my bass into the zoom and the zoom into the sound card.
The USB DOES NOTHING. Sure, maybe if you have latency issues it might help, but i don't so it doesn't
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BUT, if I DO plug in the USB then I have to go into sound settings and disable the Zoom device so my speakers will work for everything else even though they don't work for the zoom.
Just silly.
Teijo K.
Commercial User
No, the Zoom IS a sound card. You dont have to plug your zoom in to a sound card. You need to plug speakers in to it. Thats what usb interface actually means. So when you play music in your computer, it comes out of the zoom, not from your computers sound card. But if you dont have speakers in your Zoom, you naturally cant hear it. Since you cant have two operational sound cards working at the same time, it disables the sound card you have in your computer.
Yeah you don't understand what I'm saying.
Bass>Soundcard>Mobo (aka computer)>Speakers. worked fine.
Bass> Zoom>USB>Computer>Speakers. The speakers are connected to computer so sound card plugged into computer should run them. That's what a USB interface does.
There shouldn't be a need to also plug the zoom into USB (with computer speakers attached) AND an amp, which is an external speaker on a different line than the USB.
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I did however figure it out.
In windows sound panel (which I had been through 6 times already). I missed the 'Listen to this device' checkbox in the recording tab under the Zoom Recording Mixers properties. (I had the volume turned up and device enabled, etc.. just missed that checkbox. Derp!
Woke up to neighbors barking pitbull that wouldn't shut up for 2 hours. Cranky and tired
Bass>Soundcard>Mobo (aka computer)>Speakers. worked fine.
Bass> Zoom>USB>Computer>Speakers. The speakers are connected to computer so sound card plugged into computer should run them. That's what a USB interface does.
There shouldn't be a need to also plug the zoom into USB (with computer speakers attached) AND an amp, which is an external speaker on a different line than the USB.
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I did however figure it out.
In windows sound panel (which I had been through 6 times already). I missed the 'Listen to this device' checkbox in the recording tab under the Zoom Recording Mixers properties. (I had the volume turned up and device enabled, etc.. just missed that checkbox. Derp!
Woke up to neighbors barking pitbull that wouldn't shut up for 2 hours. Cranky and tired
Still trying to get this to work reliably. Anyone else get a cubase le bundle? Get it working right?
--------copy of a forum post at stienberg and sent to zoom, I'll see what response I get----
I recently bought a Zoom B3 and it came bundled with CubaseLE8.
Trying to record but I can't get the two to work nicely together. The main problem is the device drivers. (everything is current downloads/updates)
In CubaseLE8,
If I set the device VST Audio system to :
A- Zoom series AISO, then I can hear my bass through the pedal>computer speakers. BUT, Cubase shows NO indication of it receiving the sounds. And it won't let me select 'zoom AISO' in the input tab even though it is listed. 'Not connected' shows and I can't change it (zoom shows in drop down right below it).
B- Generic low latency AISO, then I can play my bass through the pedal and see action on the 'EQ' bar. I can also record and see waves (very tiny ones), and if I play back it is VERY loud. But I can't hear the bass through my computer speakers at all.
C- AISO4all v2, then I can't hear my bass, I can't see the EQ bar change at all and I don't believe I got anything recorded either.
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Win Pro 7
i7
geforce gtx
24 gb ram
System is fine. All drivers updated, etc..
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Why do companies bundle crap like this together and advertise it as something that works? Do you not get together first and make sure this stuff will even work?
It kind of burns me on both companies, I bought the Zoom and they advertise a program that isn't compatible.
I try Cubase and it doesn't work either yet I get spammed with upgrade messages, why the hell would I do that, IT DOESN'T WORK.
Further more, if I have to see an advertisment every other time I open Cubase I'd rather use Audacity.
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I found this image, seems like it was a problem with vrs 7 also.
Zoom H series appears to work. G series shows 'not selected' in that list. It does show up in the drop down for that list but can't be selected.
--------copy of a forum post at stienberg and sent to zoom, I'll see what response I get----
I recently bought a Zoom B3 and it came bundled with CubaseLE8.
Trying to record but I can't get the two to work nicely together. The main problem is the device drivers. (everything is current downloads/updates)
In CubaseLE8,
If I set the device VST Audio system to :
A- Zoom series AISO, then I can hear my bass through the pedal>computer speakers. BUT, Cubase shows NO indication of it receiving the sounds. And it won't let me select 'zoom AISO' in the input tab even though it is listed. 'Not connected' shows and I can't change it (zoom shows in drop down right below it).
B- Generic low latency AISO, then I can play my bass through the pedal and see action on the 'EQ' bar. I can also record and see waves (very tiny ones), and if I play back it is VERY loud. But I can't hear the bass through my computer speakers at all.
C- AISO4all v2, then I can't hear my bass, I can't see the EQ bar change at all and I don't believe I got anything recorded either.
=================
Win Pro 7
i7
geforce gtx
24 gb ram
System is fine. All drivers updated, etc..
=================
Why do companies bundle crap like this together and advertise it as something that works? Do you not get together first and make sure this stuff will even work?
It kind of burns me on both companies, I bought the Zoom and they advertise a program that isn't compatible.
I try Cubase and it doesn't work either yet I get spammed with upgrade messages, why the hell would I do that, IT DOESN'T WORK.
Further more, if I have to see an advertisment every other time I open Cubase I'd rather use Audacity.
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I found this image, seems like it was a problem with vrs 7 also.
Zoom H series appears to work. G series shows 'not selected' in that list. It does show up in the drop down for that list but can't be selected.
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Teijo K.
Commercial User
B3 is a sound card. You replace your computer sound card with it. It does not work, or is it meant to work bass - zoom - computer - speakers. If you use zoom as an interface, your signal should go from computer _and_ bass to zoom and from zoom to speakers. So if you want to use Zoom as an interface, you need to remove the speakers from your computer, and plug them in to your Zoom instead.
And you normally cant use two sound cards at the same time. So if you choose your build in sound card for output, you have to use that same card for input as well. If you on the other hand want to use Zoom for input, you need to use Zoom for output as well. So you need to put your speakers in to Zoom output.
I dont usually use my Zoom as a sound card, since I've got two R16 to do that job. Actually I even use my edit and share with my old laptop, since I dont need any extra soundcard drivers haunting in my studio computer.
But after just short test long time ago, Zoom and Cubase worked perfectly together.
And you normally cant use two sound cards at the same time. So if you choose your build in sound card for output, you have to use that same card for input as well. If you on the other hand want to use Zoom for input, you need to use Zoom for output as well. So you need to put your speakers in to Zoom output.
I dont usually use my Zoom as a sound card, since I've got two R16 to do that job. Actually I even use my edit and share with my old laptop, since I dont need any extra soundcard drivers haunting in my studio computer.
But after just short test long time ago, Zoom and Cubase worked perfectly together.Latest posts
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