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Zoom Owners' Club!

#781
Teijo K. said:
B3 is a sound card. You replace your computer sound card with it. It does not work, or is it meant to work bass - zoom - computer - speakers. If you use zoom as an interface, your signal should go from computer _and_ bass to zoom and from zoom to speakers. So if you want to use Zoom as an interface, you need to remove the speakers from your computer, and plug them in to your Zoom instead.

And you normally cant use two sound cards at the same time. So if you choose your build in sound card for output, you have to use that same card for input as well. If you on the other hand want to use Zoom for input, you need to use Zoom for output as well. So you need to put your speakers in to Zoom output.

I dont usually use my Zoom as a sound card, since I've got two R16 to do that job. Actually I even use my edit and share with my old laptop, since I dont need any extra soundcard drivers haunting in my studio computer. :) But after just short test long time ago, Zoom and Cubase worked perfectly together.
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Sorry man, you are absolutely WRONG.

A USB Interface IS to take music from your instrument directly into your computer. There is no reason at all that you shouldn't hear sound through your speakers.

Once the music goes into your computer your computer CAN run it out the speakers.

The pedal IS NOT a soundcard. It is simply a USB device that has a lot of sound shaping features, that feeds those sounds to your Motherboard, at that point the sound card (mine is onboard) is used to deal with incoming/outgoing sounds. This is done through a driver, This pedal has a G series driver.
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I also already posted that I had forgot a checkbox and NOW with the Zoom driver I can play sound through my speakers. (In fact the Zoom driver states it is good for music AND GAMES). My computer is also fast enough I can set latency to less than 2 ms and get no ill effects.

The problem is the Zoom driver (G series with this pedal) does not function with the Daw that was included.
The H series driver from Zoom (for other pedals) works with Cubase Daw.

I have a feeling that the issue lies within Cubase, but it could very well be the driver.

On another forum I found this to be an issue back to CubaseLE7 (I have LE8)
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Just because this daw and pedal are new to me doesn't mean I don't understand computers or the function of the components. I made more money with my computer last year than I did with my job. This is the 5th flawless computer build I have done, family members still use my old ones.

I can run this pedal into Audacity, hear it through my speakers AND record it at proper volumes. Without ANY set up. When I follow the tut for set up in Cubase it SHOWS the driver, it just won't let me pick it out of the menu. That's a fault of the driver and/or the Daw.

Audacity is FREEWARE DAW and it works without ANY setup.
 
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#783
But you plug your speakers into it and call that perfectly?

What version of Cubase? You say a 'short test a LONG TIME AGO'. I happen to think you are not using same version of driver OR cubase.
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Like I said, I get sound into my speakers AND record in Audacity just fine. CubeaseLE8 won't let me select Zoom driver that is IN THE DROP DOWN MENU. I posted a picture a few posts back about the issue the driver and cubase have with each other. It works in THAT picture because its the H series driver. B3 has G.

Even if I did what you say to do, Plug my speakers into the B3 instead of my computer (which is ridiculous) it STILL wouldn't make the driver work with Cubase.
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#784
Yeas, similar to what I do with all my soundcards. And have been doing since late nineties I started to shift from tape to daws.

:)

Zoom B3 as sound card - downsides?

And other people seem to be doing it as well. "The B3 has a USB port for connection to any Macintosh or Windows computer, allowing it to act as a 2-input / 2-output audio interface." In other words, that means "soundcard". Zoom B3 Bass Effects & Amp Simulator Pedal

I tested it a year ago, and it worked perfectly. I run my studio at the moment with Zoom R16 as my interface, and I have Reaper as a daw, so I am not planning on setting up the B3/Cubase combo just because I can. Actually I dont think I am able to help you with this one. Ever so sorry about that. Hope you get everything sorted out for you.
 
#785
But WHAT version of Driver and Cubase do you have? It's obviously different if yours worked together AT ALL.

But again, I maintain, an INTERFACE is NOT a SOUNDCARD. An interface is basically a cable.

I have no problem with sound. It's getting Cubase to accept the Zoom driver.

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Just because a confused guy thinks running sound out of his computer (aka soundcard) into a pedal (that has input) and out to a hi fi speaker (because it also has output) doesn't make the pedal a sound card.

The pedal might technically have a soundcard in it as part of it's processing unit, but that also doesn't make it a 'soundcard'. At most it makes it a soundcard for your BASS, but it still feeds into your computers soundcard, it doesn't replace it.

Also, the zoom driver doesn't make it a soundcard, nor does it make it replace your soundcard. It simply is a small program that lets your computer correctly intake the pedals output. Without the driver your computer wouldn't understand it.
 
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#786
Sound card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

USB sound cards[edit]
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USB sound card
USB sound "cards", sometimes called "audio interfaces", are usually external boxes that plug into the computer via USB. A USB audio interface may describe a device allowing a computer which has a sound-card, yet lacks a standard audio socket, to be connected to an external device which requires such a socket, via its USB socket.

The USB specification defines a standard interface, the USB audio device class, allowing a single driver to work with the various USB sound devices and interfaces on the market.

Even cards meeting the older, slow, USB 1.1 specification are capable of high quality sound with a limited number of channels, or limited sampling frequency or bit depth, but USB 2.0 or later is more capable.
 
#787
Read my edit.

If the zoom pedal was replacing my soundcard as you said then I couldn't listen to the radio, a game and a movie through my speakers at the same time I can listen to my bass. I can do all four at once because the pedal feeds into my soundcard which is also handling movie, radio and game at the same time and putting those out through my speakers.

I promise you at this very instant I could run sound out of my headphone jack into my amp, even through a d.i. box. And the tv show I am watching will play out of my bass cab.

But trying to use the B3 as a dedicated soundcard makes no sense when the soundcard in my computer works just fine, it's realtek high def audio, probably more powerful than whatever is in the B3.
In fact my soundcard doesn't even show up in the Daw so it's not like I'm selecting the realtek driver instead of the zoom driver.

Either way, you aren't having the driver issue because you aren't using Zoom Gseries driver with Cubase.

Not because you are 'bypassing' your computers soundcard.
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I'm asking for the 3rd time now though and you seem to be stuck on the 'soundcard thing'.

WHAT VERSION OF CUBASE and ZOOM DRIVER DO YOU HAVE? that's the issue .
 
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#788
Teijo K. said:
Sound card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A USB audio interface may describe a device allowing a computer which has a sound-card, yet lacks a standard audio socket, to be connected to an external device which requires such a socket, via its USB socket.

The USB specification defines a standard interface, the USB audio device class, allowing a single driver to work with the various USB sound devices and interfaces on the market.

Even cards meeting the older, slow, USB 1.1 specification are capable of high quality sound with a limited number of channels, or limited sampling frequency or bit depth, but USB 2.0 or later is more capable.
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That is what an AUDIO INTERFACE is. It's a device that adds a audio socket. It makes it easier than using the 1/8 jack on back panel of computer basically. It also has a driver and in combination they make it easier to get a signal into your computers sound card without discernable latency.
I don't have a latency issue either, I can get a pretty good signal through my audio jack, but then I have to crawl around the back of my computer and use a 1/8>1/4 adaptor that puts a lot of strain on the jack in my mobo.

Much easier to plug in a USB cable up front.
 
#791
So I contact Zoom and Steinberg and the responses:
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Hello,

Thanks for the response. If the issue is only occurring in Cubase, I would recommend contacting Steinberg customer support. It should be compatible with the software so they can help you find a solution.

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Let me know if you have any further questions.

Sincerely,
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JOHN MOLFETAS
CUSTOMER SUPPORT
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2120 SMITHTOWN AVENUE
RONKONKOMA NY 11779
P WWW.ZOOM-NA.COM
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Hi,

If you cannot select the Zoom ASIO driver, then there is an error on the Zoom's driver side. Please, ask them for help.
Martin Jirsak
http://www.cubase-training.com/EN/

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Bundled software that doesn't work with driver. Up to the customer to ping pong back and forth between the companies to sort out their problems, NICE.
 
#796
signal chain should be bass>zoom>PC (via USB)> set output in daw as your regular built in soundcard (CORE AUDIO)> Speakers

That will work

You can also set your output in the DAW as the zoom and use your amp.


So essentially you are just using the zoom as your input source VIA USB but you can still use your realtek (generic PC audio card) as the output.

I do it all the time.
 
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#797
B1xon in, and in front of me. Didn't have time to RTFM at work today. What's the world coming to?

Now the decision. I should be spending my time learning to play. Or building a cab. Besides, how do I work this crazy thing? This is a distraction. So, since I find important decisions are easier to make in a slightly altered state, I guzzled down one beer and 2/3 done with the next. Waiting for beer to soak into my brain...

Ah, feeling better now. Hmmmm, angel on my left shoulder says, "Put it away in it's box in the garage and go back after you know how to play a nice flat tuned system." Devil on my right should says, "Screw that man, whip it out and play with it! You know you want to. It'll be much more fun!"

[Jon swats angelic figure to the ground and steps on it]:spit:

That was easy. Get's easier every time too!
 
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#799
bassbrad said:
The B1x0n is a great tool for learning
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That's exactly what I was thinking after playing around with it for a while. Just learning what the basic idea is of a particular pedal type is worth the money.

bassbrad said:
all w/o bothering others if you use headphones
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Huh? What others? Remaining figure on my shoulder says crank it up man; screw neighbors! (seriously I've asked them a zillion times and they swear they can't hear me, and I've played my stereo much louder over the years)

bassbrad said:
Gotta say kids these days are so lucky with all this cheap but entirely useful gear, wasn't that way when I started.
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Hah! saw a toddler at the grocery line today, had a gun that looked star warsy. I said something like wow little man, that is a really cool gun you have there. He looked up, shot me in the gut. Made noise and had red LEDs flashing at the tip. So I buckled over a bit for him. Made me remember what we had, pass-me-down cast pot metal cap guns that didn't work very well.
 
#800
BadExample said:
Hah! saw a toddler at the grocery line today, had a gun that looked star warsy. I said something like wow little man, that is a really cool gun you have there. He looked up, shot me in the gut. Made noise and had red LEDs flashing at the tip. So I buckled over a bit for him. Made me remember what we had, pass-me-down cast pot metal cap guns that didn't work very well.
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Wow overprotective mommy and daddy let early spawn play with weapon, what iz the world coming to, future mass murderer in the making.
 
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