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Double Bass D'Addario Helicore Megathread

I’ve been looking into some of the controversy surrounding D’Addario right now. I don’t want to be one of those “I’ll never buy another D’Addario product ever again” type people, but I’m not feeling especially motivated to want to buy a new set of Helicore’s either.

Danny Sapko has a couple videos on YouTube right now discussing it.

Mike Gordon (A tone discussion)

Ya know, the more I mull with this, the more it makes sense how the Eden was so much of this tone. Boosting the Enhance knob is more subtractive than it is additive, in context, I think. Making up those removed mids from the bass and adding them back in is like filtering out syrup and adding in honey. Neither is wrong, the flavor will change, but the taste will still be sweet.
Yeah it really must be some sort of phase thing. I've dialed it in even further and ill definitely post some really nice bits when im digging in on the groove. Not kidding at all when I say I feel so much more locked in up there now because my bass sounds the the way I want it to. My homie has seen 140+ phish shows and he was like damn you got that 90s Mike tone on lock. I'm pretty astonished to be honest loll
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Custom Slap ramp

That’s cool… very different from the clearance on my finger ramp’s… but they also serve very different functions.

I don’t have a ruler in front of me to test, but from this picture you can see it’s about a 1/16” between the bottom of the B string and the top of the ramp. I try to get them as close as I can without restricting the movement/vibration of the strings.
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That’s really tight!

Vintera II Roadworn Precision Bass - Damage or relicing?

The soft-ish edges on the wear makes me think it was from the factory. I feel like actual wear would be much more jagged or irregular, that seems like it's a possible option on relicing, but perhaps less common than some other spots that get factory wear.

Not an expert opinion at all, just my take on first glance.
No expert either, but TBH, it looks more like a kid's first day on the finishing wheels, cleaned up as much as is practical without repainting.

Double Bass Which adhesive to use to re-attach a pegbox? Or no adhesive at all?

Thanks, Greg. The pictures are old, and I could not update or add to them because my camera is malfunctioning and will not power on (after several battery changes). To address your questions and comments, there is not enough gluing surface on the horns of the neck (as per your drawing) to give me much help there.

RE the epoxy, it appears the same gluing rules apply as with hide glue: don't tighten the clamps all the way down so that all the glue is squeezed out.

Regarding the fastener, I will have to do some eyeballing and measuring. The fastener running afoul of the tuning machines is a concern, if I am to go interior.

The screw through the nut will have to be a screw just above the nut; the bottom of the pegbox aligns flush with the bottom of the nut, and I don't think there is enough wood there to give the screw much purchase. There is, however, about 1/4 inch of wood above the nut before getting into the pegbox proper, and it is angled slightly. Putting the screw in there would not only take care of the "angle of resistance"; it would allow me to use a longer screw. There, I might even be able to use two screws.

Thanks for the warning about strings, but this instrument, if it ever becomes playable again, will never see anything heavier than solo strings tuned to standard. If if I can get those in weich, so much the better.

And thank YOU for all the time and trouble you went to to advise me.
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Mixer suggestions please

I did look at that as well, but my main concern was 100% reliance on a tablet. How was the built in router? How did you find that in practice? Did you ever use it at outside gigs — any issues with heat, visibility in direct sunlight?

Our shows will predominantly be small - medium bar gigs with the occasional outdoors show. At least in the near future.
I never used the internal router as I already had a high-quality external router (Ubiquiti) that knew was superior. See the guide written by s0c9 for router set up tips that really help.

To your other questions, I used it both in the studio and at gigs, including some outdoor summer shows, with no issues. As I’m a long-time Mixing Station user, I tended to rely on that. I had no issues with connection reliability or control using a 10th Gen iPad. The only issues I had were my own fault - not assuring my iPad batteries were fully charged. Even then, although having to attach a charger interfered with portability, I never lost control of the mixer.

I did experience some issues with our Sennheiser wireless IEM system. As I was working to sort that out we added another band member and found ourselves needing more inputs, leading us to our current X32 Rack/DL32 system. That notwithstanding, I liked the CQ20B a lot.
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Double Bass G String Recommendations?

Thought about that as well. I’ve heard that they can be brighter than Spiros, at least initially.
Yeah -- I recently installed a full set S42 superflexible medium think they'd be darker/bassier than spiros -- they lasted only a couple of weeks on my bass. From that I put on a set of Evah Pirazzi med. They definitely bring out the low end on my bass, and sound decent acoustically, but just got buried at a jazz gig last week, so I'm on the string hunt again. Problem is that I play mostly orchestra, and evahs don't like to be changed, so I'm going to start this upcoming orchestra season with these EP's and see how they perform in the section. They sound good in my practice studio.
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Is the Fender Am Pro II P Bass suited for Labella flats for a classic P tone?

Hi all, is anyone here using a Fender Am Pro II with Labella 760FL 43-104 flatwound strings for a classic P bass tone? I owned one of the new Fender Vintera II Road Worn 60s P basses and strung it with Labella 760FL 43-104 flatwounds and fell in love with the tone and feel of those strings. The pickup in that bass is supposed to be a bit darker and 60s voiced. What I didn't like about that bass was the width of the neck and the tall frets so I sold it.

I love how my Am Pro II P bass feels and sounds. I have DR Sunbeams on it. If strung with Labella Deep Talking Bass strings does it do that classic 60s kind of vibe well? Does anyone play an Am Pro II with Labella flats or are they more suited for other P bass models?

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I use those strings on a Fender Am Pro I and they sound superb. Of course, the bass now has a Jazz neck and Fralin pickups, but I can assure you the strings sound glorious. Don't overthink it as it's not an expensive experiment to try the La Bellas.

P.S. Those La Bellas feel perfectly balanced to me and have an especially even feel across all four strings when using a pick. I switched from TI Flats, which are not particularly balanced in feel. Picking on the La Bellas was immediately smoother with an even flow. FWIW.

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Double Bass Fantastic Musical Instruments in LA

I've only been there a few times over the last 10 years or so, FMI is about 60 miles from my home and I've only visited the shop when I happened to be traveling though Pasadena. Finding the store, located behind other buildings on the address street, is challenging if you've never been there before. All the times I was there the staff were helpful enough but perhaps a little bit distant; maybe they were distracted or maybe I just looked like a stranger off the street -- which is really what I was to them. I wasn't ever seriously put off by that, and I have purchased a few items from them; they were good and functional standard DB accessories, all which I'm still using today. Unfortunately I have never had an opportunity to talk with Tom.

I've never entertained the idea of buying a DB from FMI because I'm really not in the market at all, but they had a lot of DBs in stock there, especially compared to any music store closer to my home that I'm aware of. The instruments there that initially caught my eyes looked mostly finished (ie: painted) to cater more to RaB or PsyB -- my Alcoa would have been very comfortable there -- but there were also some more natural finished DBs that might have been Shen or older American or European made instruments. I wouldn't be surprised if they had between 12 and 20 DBs in the shop at the times I was there; it was pretty amazing for me to be around that many DBs.

It's nice to know they are good at fingerboard work, if I ever need a fingerboard dressing or a fingerboard replacement I'll contact them; I currently know of no one closer to where I live who would be able to do that kind of work well.

Squier Contemporary Jazz upgraded with Sadowsky pre-amp

Piggybacking onto this thread, since it's relevant to my issue. I, too, picked up a Squire Contemporary Jazz Bass V body with a faulty preamp. I just finished the build with an aftermarket roasted maple neck. The volume, blend, and tone pots all work just fine, but the dual control preamp does nothing at all. Is it possible to replace only that preamp, and if so, what do folks recommend?

Well, this is new!

Unfortunately, I don't see any improvement since the effort to eliminate these pesky rogue ads.:rollno: TB is infested with them now and to add insult to injury, they have nothing to do with music at all.:sour: As I have said previously, Google ads are the worst offender. :poop:
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Slapping and tapping

Generally you need to keep it in perspective.
If you spend way way over 50% of your practice time on stuff you'll use in one track or part of one track, you'll likely compromise what you can play at the expense of others.
2 guys I know do that..and their slap parts are good, but not every song wants it and tbf, the good bands don't call them as the rest of their game isn't up to it. Nobody wants a bass solo for more than 4 measures either....if it really can't serve the song..
Sure, the bass player might argue for it but gtrs have bigger egos and the best gtrs will win.
No one I know will stop the odd lick if tastefully done and even then..forget 80's style. IME.

And if the only groove you can carry is a slap groove, I'd suggest you put work in elsewhere or start your own band.

NBD - Ibanez EHB1500, most comfortable bass ever

After playing the instrument for days, I finally plugged in after dark & couldn't see the side-dots, At ALL!

Turns out you need to charge them up-close with a strong light. I finally realized my mobile phone's flash LED will charge them, but I'm not too happy that it won't charge in normal, bright light.
I left it on the kitchen table under our brightest light for an hour, nothing!
I was conflicted when I got my used EHB 1500. I so wanted it to be perfect and from a looks perspective it is! Many years ago I bought my first bass, a Steinberger L2. My used EBH did not have the original strings, previous owner put some D'Addario 45-100's on it. It had a strong over tone on the big E string and no amount of finagling would fix. Then I put on a .105 E string and the bass came to life, big bass sound and no overtone distortion. I plays like a dream and I can dial in a lot of things. One thing I'll say which is a little unusual... it does not sound particularly good flat, with all the knobs on the detents. Just a little bass boost and a tweak of the Mid-frequency knob and it has my sound. I almost feel that it is not the same scale length as all my G&L's, even though it is. Playing on the low notes near the nut seems like my left hand needs to stretch more. Weird, huh?
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Custom Fodera P-Bass

That bass is beautiful, and I can certainly understand the appeal of paying top dollar for a bespoke P bass. But I can't help but think that for that dollar amount, there should be a more elegant solution for the output jack. Not sure what that solution is, but this option just bugs me.

Fodera will do a side jack at no charge. All you have to do is request it. I had a couple of builds done that way, and I've always felt it looked far better.

Is Delano's wiring instruction wrong?

What's the reason? You should find out and get back with us.

Electrically, I don't see a problem with installing the Active/Passive Push/Pull Volume control.

However, if you have a thin-bodied bass, maybe the Push/Pull pot is physically too tall to fit.

On a personal note, I had that problem once many years ago. I made a wood & plastic stand-off, mounted it on the face of the bass, installed the push/pull, and problem solved. Yeah, it was about a 1/2 inch bump sticking up, but who cares. Functionality above looks. I get that some folk don't like 'bastardizing' their instrument and mar the looks, but I'm here to play bass, not enter the frakkin' thing in a beauty contest LOL. I never got fired once for it and the audience never boo'd me, so... :)

Anyway, if you can, find out why he says it won't work.
I ended up having him wire the hybird setup as the directions instructed (it omits the push pull volume for a normal volume pot, and the included treble pot is a stacked passive tone when in passive, and treble tone when in actice). He is having an issue with horrible feedback/noise when the preamp is engaged/humbucker mode. He contacted Delano, hopefully they'll help him sus it out. I went over the diagram with him, seems (hopefully) that he has it right from what I can tell. Fingers crossed they figure it out, I would love to have this bass in my hands soon!
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