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Good thinking! I'll probably sell my 2 pf210's & pf350 now and grab a pf410hlf, and another later when I get some more cash. I'm just wondering if this new amp doesnt mean a new cab coming, like a pf410 sealed ... hmm.. LOL :bassist:

OK, did some more testing of the pf800 with 2 pf210he's, pushed it a bit. Starts to "fart out" if you set both gain and volume >75% using pf210's (also f--king loud). I'd imagine an instantly blown cab if you tried both at 100% ***not even gonna try it *** This was never a danger with...

Got mine in, no issues so far with the pf210s! :) Definately louder than the pf350, in the 3db or so range anyway. Haven't had an opportunity to really push them yet however, it's too loud for an enclosed space. But the headroom is immediately apparent, even at low volumes it is noticeably...

Yep if nothing else, I've gotten that some common sense applies to the volume. I pressed the tech support guy some more and he's insistent you only need to worry about the RMS power, but he agrees you dont want the peak or limit constantly lighting up, only when you hit the bass harder than...

I got curious so I emailed tech support at ampeg, got this back: So I think there might be some false info floating around here. Dont mean this in a "told ya so" kind of way, just trying to keep things right.

If I blow them up I'll post and let you know! It says 450W RMS handling for each on the lit so I'm optimistic. Assuming they got the resistance just right.

Yea I am playing on an open air stage 1/month or so, and my 350 could use a bit more help. I dont always trust the sound guy to get it right in the stage mix (monitors) or even right in general. I like my bass loud and more headroom is always welcome.

Really, they are advertised as being a "perfect fit" for one, and they are dimensionally engineered for this line of cabs. They bear the same line name and are advertised on the same page. Dude, there couldnt be a more direction connection without permanently mounting on the cab (which you can...

Yea, ive read your posts saying such but is this from experience or just theory? I'd like to hear from an A/B tester. Just seems counter-intuitive that Ampeg would be selling an amp thats functionally no louder with the cabs in the same series as a lesser amp.

I've seen a few posts about this using search but doesnt seem to be as much talk about it as the pf350/500. Is it good, bad or ugly?? Got my finger on the trigger to buy! Mind you I'll be pairing it with existing pf210's, for which I had been using the pf350. I like but am looking for a...

I play a duo with my wife for fun mostly and we do it without drummer. It will vary, I've incorporated a lot of slap into songs, and she'll sometimes play the keyboard more percussively. However its difficult to do without the timing suffering at some point particularly if you both sing...

Took me a long time and everytime I think I've got it I learn just how wrong I am. Just remember you dont learn it "all at once", keep practicing and you get better and better. Dont punish yourself for not being perfect. Everytime you attempt it you add to your skill. I know this sounds like...

Thanks I'm using the live version as a starting point, since theres no bass line I can hear on the studio version. I've also thrown in the whistle part during the chorus on the bass too, and some walking lines between the two notes. Its not a hard song, but since we do songs exactly per the...

Thats a cool idea, might see how that sounds myself!

Guys help me out here... asked in the technique section but not sure it belongs there, you guys might be better to pick this out. One of our band wants me to play the bass track for Maroon 5's moves like jagger "like on the studio version". I'm telling him there is no bass guitar on the...

Yea I'm using two cabs which is a somewhat new thing. Guess I cant push it but then that takes away from why I want two cabs. OTOH, it can play cranked at times too, so I think maybe my pedals are overdriving it a bit much.

Guys help me out here... One of our band wants me to play the bass track for Maroon 5's moves like jagger "like on the studio version". I'm telling him there is no bass guitar on the studio version, just some bass synth and a heavy kick drum. Heres a link if you happen to be living under a...

Well.. getting some cut out issues finally on my pf350.. thought it was only you pf500 people. And during our most important gig to date! :bawl: Was last weekend, had it cut out for a few seconds here and there during first set of three. Only happened about 4/5 times but it was so one...

Same, great service from axe always! I feel the second pf210 is totally worth it even if I dont need the headroom (yet!). I tried unplugging one set and it seems so hollow now if I dont have both plugged in. Or am I imagining this?

Seems like the cutting out has mainly been a problem with the pf500, anyone have problems with the 350?

I'm ok there, the portaflex 115 and 210 are both sealed cabs.

So the phasing issue is electrical in nature and not sonic? As an electrical designer I can understand that better. I'm considering adding a 15" ampeg cab (PF115) to my 2x10" ampeg cab (PF210), both are the same made/model with this difference only. I think that given the simliar speaker area...

As a "dyed in the wool" 2 finger player, Ive recently found that 3 finger playing really does make things easier. Fast triplets forced me to consider 3 finger, and I'm glad I did now. Just set aside some time for a few weeks to build up your speed and technique (on each string!) and you'll...

Haha yeaaa... thats a good point. I dont like when a band sounds too muddy, I've been there before and dont want to be sucked in again. My thinking is with a 15" and 2x10" theres some diversity and can use either or both for a given situation. I dont think I'll ever actually need both...

From reading the previous thread it sounds like the pf115 and pf210 play well together. Our guitarists like a "bass-y" sound and have gotten into 12" speakers, so I'm feeling like I should add a pf115 cab to my pf210 setup, if only to get a bit lower. I've read about the cancellation problem...

Totally perfect beat would be boring, its what separates us from machines.

Good to hear, I start to wonder if I missed the boat somehow when it seems like people mostly going 1x15", with my pf210. Especially since I've never gotten to hear them side by side. I prefer a bit more clarity typically but still have a niggling of a doubt wondering if I shouldnt be...

Same, I'm thinking of doing it eventually but I hear bad things about different speaker sizes not playing nice together...

I'd say youre justified, everyone loses it now and again, its good to let em know how you really feel once in a while. But you probably have a bit of apologizing to do. See where it goes from there. You might have to make your jams more fun, I think thats where the problem is. I...

Hang in there, you probably arent that far away from joining a casual band anyway. Many people dont even do lessons though I am sure it helps, but you can take what you've learned already and start just learning songs if that improves the enjoyment. I cant say when you are ready, thats up...

Electrical designer for an engineering consulting company. If its electrical I'll design it... for a price. :)

Same, as much as possible like a show... not sure its best but it does make sense. I always practice with my bass standing up for the same reason, even at home.

I'd go with this, or something even sneakier like there never really was an audition; they were just trying to get their bass player to behave with a threatened replacement. I've dealt with similar type stuff, no one ever advertises they need a bassist for "1 gig" because who would bother?

Its my life (No doubt)... its not too show-off-y but its full bass all the way but you guys have some cool ones, makes me glad I read these forums

Thanks muzikman, I didnt realise harmonics played such an important role. So really saying bass is omni-directional, at least with regards to the bass amp in a band, is probably not the best way to look at it. Probably should be careful about using a low pass filter if I ever wanted to also...

Thanks guys, that answer makes a lot of sense! I thought most bass frequencies were under 200hz however.

I know the easy answer, its omni-directional, but why is it then if the speakers are too low on the ground or if I am beside my amp rather than in front of it it can be so hard to hear? Shouldnt the sound come at me from any angle? I've read a lot on this lately, on these forums also, and most...

If you ask me part of being a "tribute band" as opposed to a "cover band" is dressing up like the real band. But that might be more opinion than anything... :smug:

Offhand I'd say 400W is enough depending on size of places, but it does depend on a bunch of things, as stated above.

I'd have to assume since the pf350 doesnt have the speakon connector, but the pf350 does have two outputs for two cabs. My thinking would be as long as the impedance adds up ok you could do it.