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“Heavy Metal” Jazz?

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MontzterMash said:
Would love to also find more metallic jazz, I don’t really know of any. There is some jazz influenced metal like Cynic (and other related from Sean Malone).

As a metal head who got into jazz, the ones I found I liked that tickled some of the same parts of my brain are:

Dexter Gordon
Eddie Harris
Wes Montgomery
Hiromi with Stanley Clarke
Ok, pretty much everything by Stanley Clarke
Danny Gatton
Jamaaladeen Tacuma

looking forward to seeing what else shows up here ...
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My brother turned me on to Eddie Harris’ work with Les McCann. Danny Gatton played everything from Rockabilly to Jazz. I met the band once, they were nice guys,

What about some of Jeff Beck’s stuff? Or perhaps some Zappa?
 
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Matthew_84 said:
This is probably a reach, but is there any type of harder versions of jazz?

Learning to be proficient at jazz is the best goal for me in my bass journey, but sometimes I have a lot of bent up frustrations and there aren’t many jazz tunes that let me release it, and it’ll normally take playing Tool or Metallica songs for a few days to shake it.

That's fine and all, but I also try to play metal songs note-for-note and would like something that would be a little less structured to allow me to improvise a bit more on...

Basically, I’m looking for jazz recordings/groups that have a faster and more energetic pace, with harder hitting rhythms.... Anyone know of anything like that?

Edit: and I don’t mean stuff like Jaco’s work, which while being more energetic and faster than jazz standards, it’s not really “hard hitting” enough.
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John Scofield trio, w/Steve Swallow on bass



Long defunct band "Brouhaha" That's me playing a Stingray (with some secret sauce).
This band didn't last long, but it was fun. The vibe was kind of a cross between the Allman Brothers and Ornette Coleman.

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JimK said:
...probably not what you want. :)
Gotta post Ulmer's Music Revelation Ensemble. Drummer Cornell Rochester kicks my ass.
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That is a great record with some good kick ass Philly rhythm section work. The first Odean Pope trio album hits a heavy vibe too (also Cornell Rochester)
 
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There’s this Norwegian (I think?) band called Shining that might be kinda what you’re after. And anyway it’s good stuff. I listened to their first record, “In the kingdom of kitsch you will be a monster” a ton when it came out in 2005.
 
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It sounds like the OP is looking for a "fusion" of metal and jazz :hyper:

I think Trevor Dunn's Trio Convulsant is an authentic melding of the two (which make sense if you are familiar with his background).

Mamaleek is improvised blackmetal: Come and See, by Mamaleek

Honestly, like so much music, there is so much crossover of different styles that it is hard for to recommend stuff unless you are more specific. Jazz harmony? Shredding in jazz? Song structure? Instrumentation? Improvisation in metal?
 
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I'd go with the second Tony Williams album
Lifetime ( the bill laswell remix and resequencing made this classic such a better record) for heavyness.

Thinking of more modern metal influencing new jazz, consider Brandon Seabrook's Seabrook Power Plant

Or jazz influenced metal: Dillinger Escape Plan


And in the free jazz division there is defintely a heavy corner, for example Tiger Hatchery


And Peter Brotzmann's Full Blast:
 
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Michedelic said:
That’s kinda how I regarded the earliest(well, post acoustic, anyway)version of Return To Forever, with Bill Connors...


But then, points of reference were different, as well as what ‘metal’ meant at the time.
What was heavy was the first Mahavushnu...


Fripp certainly took notice when he retooled Crimson in 1972. That version of the band is still an influence.
Then there’s alot of the stuff Allan Holdsworth was involved in...



...and of course...

Bill Laswell’s universe includes experimental work with Fred Frith, but more importantly, Sonny Sharrock..



Hopefully some of that comes close.
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Stanley on a Ric :)
 

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