“Heavy Metal” Jazz?

[cmcbass]

Something like this perhaps?

 

[DJ Bebop]

 

[Spidey2112]

Could not resist me some Steven Wilson:

I don't blame you. We cover 'Luminol' in one band, and it's a lot of fun to play.

 

[Koshchei]

 

[smidgley]

 

[Dr. Keebs]

I don't blame you. We cover 'Luminol' in one band, and it's a lot of fun to play.

Oh heck yeah! Love that album and Hand Cannot Erase. Would love to see Luminol covered live.

 

[Dr. Keebs]

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Still waiting for something more to come of this.

 

[Paul New]

This is not what you asked for, but maybe another direction to consider of you like heat.

 

[Dr. Keebs]

Nope, not done. Not sorry.

Dave LaRue on bass

Lighter, but incredibly beautiful. A great syncopation study. Andy West on bass

Dave LaRue again

Randy George on bass

Jonas Reingold on bass

 

[InhumanResource]

Agree. Jazz is hard to define. And it has some rhythmic and harmonic conventions. Some like swung triplets on a ride strongly suggest jazz- almost like a musical stereotype or quip. Which I think is what the former quote is about.

Specific genres of jazz have more definable elements. Dixieland, big band, swing, bop, cool, fusion, etc.

But I definitely think Improvisation- especially for solos is a key element. And jazz uses harmonic conventions more than major/minor. Not saying it's prescriptive (like has to use 7ths or 9ths or 11th), jazz just is likely to have "extended" harmonic elements.

Melodic conventions are cribbed from every where for jazz- so not sure you can assign a melodic element- it has melodies- but that might be it.

But jazz has also influenced so many other types of music since it came into it's own, it can be hard to parse out.

Improv is for sure the key characteristic. I like to think of it as an improvisational folk music that often uses complex harmony between soloist and accompaniment.

 

[Upfromthesky]

Check out this record label. Lots of good stuff.
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[moderatelyfunky]

Skolnick's been mentioned a few times, but I haven't seen Thonk yet. None improv, but so fun.

 

[Pirate Captain]

Swing is a great feel often used in jazz but I wouldn't say that it inputs "jazz" into a particular piece.

Agreed...we use "swing" in celtic trad all the time

 

[minibike]

More downtempo but the doomiest jazz is definitely Bohren & Der Club Of Gore

 

[Sean Riddle]

https://pirecordings.com/albums/natural-selection/

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Dan Weiss has put out two "heavy metal jazz" albums with his band Starebaby. Trevor Dunn is on bass and in my opinion makes these albums due to being part of Mr. Bungle.



Dan Rosenboom also puts out a lot of music in this vein, with Absurd in the Anthropocene being the most recent. His band Burning Ghosts is also a great one.

 

[Evert]

how about Defunkt ?

 

[Dr. Keebs]

One song that's kinda in that vein...

Love this album

 

[REV]

I think Bill Laswell's Material might fill the bill. Especially the first record ( if you can find it) also the first Lounge Lizards record is pretty good.

 

[Dr. Keebs]

I see someone else already mentioned Naked City, but my friend, the band you seek is Imperial Triumphant. Actually, this is the exact opposite of what you asked for - it's metal with very heavy and obvious jazz, bebop, and big band influences, rather than "heavy" jazz. But it's still neat.

Yes! I've played these for many musician friends.

 

[Basslice]

I guess it depends on how you want to define either genre (Jazz / Heavy Metal). There is a ton of improvisational rock out there.

My take on it would be things like:

• Miles Davis Bitches Brew Era
• King Crimson
  
• Adrien Belew
• Frank Zappa
• Steve Morse Band
• Joe Satriani