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Yes, charcoal shells and trans black faceplate. Kudos on your order...won't be long before you have them.
I'm still not sure how I feel about the Rev33 device...perhaps I just need more time with it.
To be fair, I rehearsed last Thursday (for the 1st time) with my new A8's without the Rev33 device, but I did use the Rev33's on Sunday. I didn't experience any downgrade to the sound, but also nothing "better" from what I remembered when listening without it. Btw, this is based on playing bass live and feeding my IEM mix with vocals, drums, ableton stems (click, guide, 4-6 additional tracks), and 2 live guitars, NOT listening to recorded material. Maybe I should A/B them on the same session to form a better opinion and see if I can tell a difference (I'll try this tonight)
For those of you with 64Audio IEMs and the Rev33 - Was your experience similar to mine or could you tell right away of the difference the device makes?
To be fair, I rehearsed last Thursday (for the 1st time) with my new A8's without the Rev33 device, but I did use the Rev33's on Sunday. I didn't experience any downgrade to the sound, but also nothing "better" from what I remembered when listening without it. Btw, this is based on playing bass live and feeding my IEM mix with vocals, drums, ableton stems (click, guide, 4-6 additional tracks), and 2 live guitars, NOT listening to recorded material. Maybe I should A/B them on the same session to form a better opinion and see if I can tell a difference (I'll try this tonight)
For those of you with 64Audio IEMs and the Rev33 - Was your experience similar to mine or could you tell right away of the difference the device makes?
s0c9
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My initial experience was almost identical to yours... so much so, that I reached out to the REV33 folks with lots of questions. With my Qi's, the REV33 had a noticeable impact, not so with the A8's.
I met with their CTO a while back and he/we ran tests on my A8's (and MY ears) to compare the results to the "test" set 1964 had sent them and see if there were issues in my ears or elsewhere.
They analyzed those results and told me that the REV33 device I had was the correct one for the A8's and that it most likely that the ADEL's were the root cause of the perceived lack of "better" or difference.
I have used the REV33 for about 4 full-length (club) gigs since then, and I can hear as cleanly at the end as I can at the start.. so I guess the REV33 is doing it's job in that regard. I did 2 gigs without the REV33 before them - as a baseline, and still.. not really that much perceived difference between using the REV33 or not.
I don't believe the device is designed to do for audio what putting a personalized "smiley" EQ curve on the input would, nor be that obvious. It's designed to remove/block/filter junk in the audio stream that causes ear fatigue.. You may not notice a difference for a while.
But the experience with the A8's was very different than with my Qi's.. so I put it down to the difference the ADEL's made, adjusting to them and the overall experience.
They ARE much different than my Qi's.
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Thank you for the reply. It makes sense that the ADEL module would have an impact minimizing ear fatigue and rendering the Rev33 not as effective as with previous IEMs in the 64Audio product line. (not to fault Rev33, but to the credit of the ADELs) Also worth mentioning is that I rehearsed with the A8's for 2.5 hours, but only played with the Rev33 for 30minutes...so probably not enough time to notice a big difference. On 3-4 hour gigs the benefit will likely be more apparent. Thanks again!
I have Qi's, so it may not quite relate. I played two sets at a block party during my trial that really settled it for me. One with, and the second without it. I ended the second set wishing I had it back.
Thanks for your input. I will probably play for the next month with the Rev33 to get used to it, and then a gig without it to see if I can tell the difference.
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vision
It's all about the groove!
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Please forgive my ignorance - I don't come around talkbass too often these days. I've had my 1964 Ears V3's since 2012, and I think I'm due for an upgrade. It's been a long time since I researched - I had been planning on going with the V6 Stage model, but after checking out their website I only see Adel models available. Is the old line completely gone now? If so, which model would be most similar to the V6 Stage?
Thanks!
Thanks!
s0c9
Supporting Member
I suggest you call them and ask... the "closest" would be the A6 - but the A series all have ADEL tech, so they WILL behave differently. My A8's and Qi's are VERY different in terms of external reference.. awesome audio on both, but still very different
If the issue is electrical, maybe they can repair them. If the issue is fit, they may be able to remold the internals if a new mold is sent in. Regardless, I agree you should give them a call to discuss.
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It's all about the groove!
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No real issues with mine. I just want to upgrade - the V3's are pretty flat and I'd like a model with a bit more bass. Multiple bass drivers. Also when I ordered mine I got them without the recessed plug option, and connection has gotten loose over the years.
s0c9
Supporting Member
Well, to be honest, budget will be a factor for any decision.
My Qi's have stupid/silly bass capability.. the A8's do too.. but it's different, subtle, more refined, distinct, better sound stage and there's more sub-bass.. probably due to having double the LF BA's (4) than the Qi's (2).
I upgraded because I could - and the band is 1964 endorsing artists.
I REALLY like the A8's - tho it took a while to get used to them.. mostly due to the change in audio (ambience) that the ADEL tech introduced into the equation. Having the ADEL tech is almost like having Qi's with ambient ports.. YMMV
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My A4's came in today! 4 weeks to the day, perfect estimate.
Sound quality is amazing! Initially I thought they were REALLY bass heavy and boomy. Then I realized my Spotify EQ had the bass jacked to compensate for my other headphones. Upon fixing that they sound so freaking good!
It took me a minute or so to figure out how to get them in. Then it took me a minute to figure how to get them out! Had a good freak out.
Left side feels nice and snug. Went in and came out super easy. Right side though, felt like it had something sharp on it. They were also a lot harder to get on and out. They don't sit in the ear the same as the left. Almost feels like they arent in all the way even though they are and the isolation feels the same. I'm not sure if it's a flaw on the mold/earpiece that's causing it to be uncomfortable or just my ears themselves being overly sensitive.
Upon closer inspection it seems the ports that allow the sound into the ear aren't completely rounded and have a good amount of sharp edge to them that the left side doesn't have, that's what I think is the 'sharp' feeling in my ear.
Lastly, I see a lot of people saying how they don't feel them in their ears during extended use. I can pretty much forget about them as well, but as soon as I open my mouth like during a yawn, or move my jaw around side or side they just get scratchy and uncomfortable.
I'm really not sure how much of this is normal 'break in' or getting used to them, and how much is just not right to begin with.
Anyway, here are mine. The red ear has the 64 Audio logo on them in black and is pretty much impossible to see at all. But I love the wine red. The other side is translucent black and hard to photograph
Sound quality is amazing! Initially I thought they were REALLY bass heavy and boomy. Then I realized my Spotify EQ had the bass jacked to compensate for my other headphones. Upon fixing that they sound so freaking good!
It took me a minute or so to figure out how to get them in. Then it took me a minute to figure how to get them out! Had a good freak out.
Left side feels nice and snug. Went in and came out super easy. Right side though, felt like it had something sharp on it. They were also a lot harder to get on and out. They don't sit in the ear the same as the left. Almost feels like they arent in all the way even though they are and the isolation feels the same. I'm not sure if it's a flaw on the mold/earpiece that's causing it to be uncomfortable or just my ears themselves being overly sensitive.
Upon closer inspection it seems the ports that allow the sound into the ear aren't completely rounded and have a good amount of sharp edge to them that the left side doesn't have, that's what I think is the 'sharp' feeling in my ear.
Lastly, I see a lot of people saying how they don't feel them in their ears during extended use. I can pretty much forget about them as well, but as soon as I open my mouth like during a yawn, or move my jaw around side or side they just get scratchy and uncomfortable.
I'm really not sure how much of this is normal 'break in' or getting used to them, and how much is just not right to begin with.
Anyway, here are mine. The red ear has the 64 Audio logo on them in black and is pretty much impossible to see at all. But I love the wine red. The other side is translucent black and hard to photograph
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So after two days...
I think 90 percent of the issue was just really sensitive ears. Yesterday I was able to wear them while I cleaned up my house a little. Didn't feel nearly as uncomfortable as the day before. They seal perfectly and I couldn't even hear my vacuum with my music at half volume. Much lower than what I normally have to blast them to hear it.
My wife doesn't like them since she tried getting my attention a few times to no avail. But then she was jealous when the kids were jumping all over the house screaming and I couldn't hear a thing.
I really love the way they sound. The bass response is just perfect and solid. I am able to pick out bass lines so much easier on songs I've heard a million times and struggled with isolating the low end.
Super happy with these!
I think 90 percent of the issue was just really sensitive ears. Yesterday I was able to wear them while I cleaned up my house a little. Didn't feel nearly as uncomfortable as the day before. They seal perfectly and I couldn't even hear my vacuum with my music at half volume. Much lower than what I normally have to blast them to hear it.
My wife doesn't like them since she tried getting my attention a few times to no avail. But then she was jealous when the kids were jumping all over the house screaming and I couldn't hear a thing.
I really love the way they sound. The bass response is just perfect and solid. I am able to pick out bass lines so much easier on songs I've heard a million times and struggled with isolating the low end.
Super happy with these!
Hey guys. I'm in talks with a new group....they use in-ears for stage monitoring. I already have a set of Qi's that I use for church with Avioms. My issue is I don't have anything to drive my quads for the perspective new band. I thought about going wireless. However, (1) my bass isn't wireless so it's kinda moot for my in ears to be (2) I don't need that kind of mobility (3) and most importantly it's expensive. So needless to say I've been looking at worked solutions. I've been looking at this model Invalid Link Removed. Seems legit, however I can find no peer reviews on this thing. I like that it has a lockable 3-pin XLR input, has belt clip, is relatively small, and battery powered. What do you guys think about this peice of kit? I'm curious what y'all are using for powering your in ears.
That seems pretty expensive for what it is. What about the Link Removed? Yea, it's Behringer but if you're worried about reliability you could have a couple spares on hand and still be under the cost of the JK unit. Plus it gives you a stereo option if you want it later.
That's way too much money to spend for a wired solution. Check out the Rolls PM50. I used this before I had a wireless unit in my band, and it was rock-solid. It has a few advantages (besides being inexpensive). You can input a vocal mic or your bass via xlr pass through and get independent control over that signal relative to the monitor feed you get from the board. It runs off of 9-15V power, so you can power it with your pedal board supply (if you have one), or you can pick up a 1-spot for $10. Grab yourself a nice 15' headphone cable and you're set.
Rolls also makes a model called the PM351, which is the same device, but it has the ability to blend two separate feeds (e.g. vocals AND bass).
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Yea, PM50/351 are also good ideas. I have a PM351 and it's a solid unit (should have gone with the PM50 as I don't sing and will never use that third input). My biggest complaint though is it uses jumpers instead of switches for ground lift and stereo/mono. That to me seems a little ridiculous in this day and age. It became an issue at a gig recently when the tool I had with me wasn't long enough to pull the jumper. The show went on but that bar always gives us fits with ground loops and it would have been nice to at least try and get rid of that hum in my ears.
