Rehearsal isn't bad but I find with ear plugs it needs to be an all in deal for me to stay consistent. But yea, these guys are loud
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2013 Ampeg V-4B 100W Reissue Pt2
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Wow...sounds like some loud practices and gigs for sure! For practice we have been running in ears so not too loud. I been using my scr-di into the mix with a b25b/ 215 just for a little added feel in the room...but by no means is it loud.
Just to clarify, I use my 212 for most occasions. The 810 only comes out for outdoor or larger indoor gigs.
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Protect your hearing, it's too important. I use these for every rehearsal and gig (unless I have in-ear monitors, which I keep turned way down too):
Etymotic Research ETY-Plugs - Standard
So I took time this afternoon to test this rig out. I used the slave out and into the power amp in on the second head letting me use the first head to run both. Wow....this setup is loud with 2 v4b's each running into its own 610 cab. Standing about 10 feet In front with with the gain and master at 11 it was enough to start making your ears hurt. I engaged the ultra low with bass just past noon and it was crazy amount of thick ampeg low end. The rig was rattling my house... I was not even close to having these amps start breaking up either...I did not try as it honestly felt like I was going to get a headache from the sound pressure after a couple minutes of playing! I turned down a bit gain/master at 9 and it was a joyful experience...full wall of sound, super thick tone!
After...I ran just one amp into both cabinets at same eq...it's no where's close to the sound pressure you get when both heads are running. Don't get me wrong, one head/cab is darn loud but not making your ears hurt loud or as Dino says...killing small furry animals at 50 paces or something like that. Best way to discribe between one amp vs two is one = thin...two heads = thick; for most v4b users you know one amp is not thin by any means...get my drift
And yes gotta post pics...love this setup!
After...I ran just one amp into both cabinets at same eq...it's no where's close to the sound pressure you get when both heads are running. Don't get me wrong, one head/cab is darn loud but not making your ears hurt loud or as Dino says...killing small furry animals at 50 paces or something like that. Best way to discribe between one amp vs two is one = thin...two heads = thick; for most v4b users you know one amp is not thin by any means...get my drift
And yes gotta post pics...love this setup!
Yes, we are loud. But is not like I am maxing out the SVT VR, just a little more than the V4B, that was just at the limit. The VR It is too much volume, the V4B is just at the limit and not enough -for me-
Maybe another music style, different tuning, different band, may be the perfect amp. I would still recommend it
I really like my VR, but i put too much expectation on the V4B. I thought it would be a crossover between my former Orange AD200 and the VR
I ´ll take in consideration the ear plug and ear protection. In fact both guitarrists use ear plugs.
Tell me you don't mic up yr drums at rehearsal?
I'm assuming you rehearseat the level that yr drummer plays at. ... those 100w Marshalls are insanely loud & I can't imagine yr drummer can even hear himself if those Marshall 1/2 stacks are up at all past 2.
I'd be strongly suggesting that yr guitards get 20w Marshal combos .... at least for prax.
I'm assuming you rehearseat the level that yr drummer plays at. ... those 100w Marshalls are insanely loud & I can't imagine yr drummer can even hear himself if those Marshall 1/2 stacks are up at all past 2.
I'd be strongly suggesting that yr guitards get 20w Marshal combos .... at least for prax.
I think if you like the orange AD200 there is no "crossover". I sold mine and thought I would be happy with the V4B and Fender Super Bassman. I wasn't and had to buy another Orange. The Ampeg and the Fender might see more gigging use sometimes, but I cannot be without the Orange in the Arsenal. I think it is its total simplicity that appeals most of all, it always puts a smile on my face.
I thought it comes off easy, in fact many users on this site claim that it comes off by itself
I thought it comes off easy, in fact many users on this site claim that it comes off by itself
The spots it was worn and taped up came right off, the sides. The top back and bottom are on there good. I pulled some of the wood off muscling it. Using a heat gun and a scraper now. It's slow, the good news is a lot of the glue is coming off with it.
If it is an older cab, they used hide glue as the adhesive. This glue is water soluble and softens when heated. The trick is to use a damp cloth and a clothes iron. Place the folded damp cloth over the tolex and use the iron to gently heat the glue. The tolex and glue then come off easily without tearing the wood. Remaining glue can be removed with a warm damp cloth and a razor scraper. Don't over soak the wood as it can ripple. Any wood camage needs to be repaired with a filler. The surface has to be smooth before applying the new vinyl.
More details and pics are in the portaflex wiki, SB-12 restoration section. Follow the links to the wiki at the top of this page.
Thanks for that I will try to finish up that way tonight. I am refinishing with duratex but will fill with bindo and sand it all down.
It's all about wood prep. The key with Bondo is to not mix too much amd don't over work it. I find that a random orbital sander works well. You want it rough enough so that the Bondo can adhere. No finer than 220, with the sander I'll use a coarser grit. Removing all the dust is important.
The nice thing about Duratex is that if something goes wrong, you can sand it and reapply.
Agreed. I own an AD200 as well, and purchased the V4B this past year. I love both amps, but they definitely are different animals. Right now I'm loving my V-4B and 212AV combo, but my Orange will remain in my arsenal for the day I swap it out at practice and go "OH YEAH! That's what I've been missing!"
For now the V-4B is incredible though and I've really been enjoying playing it.
That's one helluva setup! Is that what your normal gigging rig is? What kind of music/stages do you play?
A lot of people (we also do of ourselves at times) consider my band pretty loud, but my single 212AV or a single 410 cab covers a lot of territory with two guitarists and keys playing on cranked 30 watt Fender/Vox amps. Are you competing for with full guitar stacks for that kind of volume?
Thanks P-oddz...
My normal setup has been primarily a single v4b thru 610 cab. I've rotated some other brand heads/ cabs but always come back to my ampeg setup. So...I sold the other gear and bought a second v4b head for backup, larger shows and compleat my end all of rigs! I used to have an svt but hated the weight...so fast forward...running two v4b's definitely get me that feel "push" behind every note again not to mention additional volume! Guitar players in my band are using 30 watt vox and 40 or 60 watt fender...no full guitar stacks here (thank goodness). I can get by with one head/cab...plus most all shows we play have house support. That said I'll be bringing out this setup this summer...honestly running this rig even at lower volumes sounds great!
The thought of 2 v4b's pushing my 810 recently crossed my mind as an alternative to a single svt. Or even pushing 2 212's. I imagine it's one killer rig any way slice it.
