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29 Pedals EUNA - baked-in EQ?
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I bought an EUNA to build this board and was not very convinced about it but I can say it works very well.
Well, it arrived today. Just spend a few minutes with it. Not sure I can tell it's really doing anything? I'm surprised you think it colors the tone that much? If I engage the switches I can definitely hear a difference. But with all three off I really don't notice much of anything? This is with my IEM, a Fender American Vintage II, and LaBella Flats. That was just my quick impression. I guess I need to play with it for a bit, and then remove it to see if I notice anything. I also need to try it with round wounds to see if the flats just don't do it justice. Hmmmmm.....
I sold my EUNA clone after having the same reaction. One thing that came to mind is the tuners I have on both boards have built in buffers, so maybe putting fancy buffer before a tuner's buffer yielded no difference.
I also don't have something like a 100' cable going from my bass, so maybe I'm just not the right use case. But with all switches down, I heard no difference at all.
I have a buffer on my strobostomp mini, and the Shure wireless. So maybe that’s the case. I removed the wireless and replaced it with the Euna first thing I plug into. I’m just surprised to hear people say they think it colors the tone? Maybe some basses react differently to the Euna?
It’s not an “effect pedal”.
It’s a device made to preserve the instrument signal integrity through the chain, when several other devices can contribute to degradation of the tone.
EUNA was developed to be used in large chains, using several meters of cables, different types of pedals and other devices such as wireless transmitters, etc...
On my board I use like five meters of cables and about 15 pedals. EUNA has a big role by preserving the tone.
Does it have its drawbacks? Yes, it occupies a very large space, the eq switches are not very suitable for bass, output/send return jacks are very close to each other, which makes it difficult to assemble on pedalboards... But I still believe it's a low price to pay when we are talking about tone.
I can honestly hear a subtle difference on my tone when using it and that makes me more confident about what other people will hear from my tone.
In my experience, sound engineers and other professionals have had a very positive response about sound quality since I started using this device.
I’m not affiliated and bought it with my own money. Would bought another one for my backup board.
It’s a device made to preserve the instrument signal integrity through the chain, when several other devices can contribute to degradation of the tone.
EUNA was developed to be used in large chains, using several meters of cables, different types of pedals and other devices such as wireless transmitters, etc...
On my board I use like five meters of cables and about 15 pedals. EUNA has a big role by preserving the tone.
Does it have its drawbacks? Yes, it occupies a very large space, the eq switches are not very suitable for bass, output/send return jacks are very close to each other, which makes it difficult to assemble on pedalboards... But I still believe it's a low price to pay when we are talking about tone.
I can honestly hear a subtle difference on my tone when using it and that makes me more confident about what other people will hear from my tone.
In my experience, sound engineers and other professionals have had a very positive response about sound quality since I started using this device.
I’m not affiliated and bought it with my own money. Would bought another one for my backup board.
Here it adds some sparkle and sheen to the tone. With flats of course, it should be much less noticable then with rounds 
I use it second in chain after a Thumpinator and it is still an audible difference in tone. Not dramtic, but it is there. Given the fact that it does that when not first in line, meaning after another buffer (Thumpinator) one could think it has a baked-in tone.
I use it second in chain after a Thumpinator and it is still an audible difference in tone. Not dramtic, but it is there. Given the fact that it does that when not first in line, meaning after another buffer (Thumpinator) one could think it has a baked-in tone.
I want to give it some time before I make any decisions on it.
the EUNA will shine with passive vintage output pickups. It’s the impedance loading on them that does the magic.
If you use an active bass or minimal cable runs you likely won’t notice a thing other than psychoacoustic delusion.
Yes, using a passive bass. American Vintage II P Bass with flats. When I listen on my IEM I really don't have a very long cable run. I was going wireless Shure to Union Lab, to Vintage Microtubes, to Peterson Mini, to Thumpinator, to Noble DI. And then to a DG Element. So not a very long cable run, and two buffers in that setup (tuner and wireless). I replaced the wireless with the Euna. Didn't really notice anything per say. But I'm going to give it some time. Use it for a month or so, and then remove it. If I don't notice anything.....
. I also have a P bass with round-wounds to try it with.
Literally just a buffer, an overdesigned one at that, with a ton of marketing mumbo jumbo.
Three hundred dollars for "I can honestly hear a subtle difference in my tone when using it"? It's your decision, of course, but in my opinion, that's crazy. Reminds me of homeopathy: it doesn't work beyond the placebo effect.
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I have a EUNA and have been using it pretty solidly for the last 3 years.
It's a great buffer, that does that job very well - with EQ switches off it is clear and transparent, and I have found it useful at maintaining clear and consistent tone regardless of cable length from bass to board. Which is useful fro the occasional time I want some freedom on stage and use 18-20ft cables.
Similarly it does a great job of maintaining the tonal consistency of my signal in longer pedal board and effects chains.
In some signal chains this has rendered a great sense of weight and clarity to the tone, but generally it is very much without what I would describe or perceive as baked-in EQ.
The three EQ switches are brilliant though, and honestly the main reason to buy the pedal over other similar pedals. All three switches have their uses, and work fantastically with bass in my experience.
I almost always have the Low and Bright switches engaged (and very often all three), as I love what this does to the low end, and the bright switch in particular does a very nice thing to drive effects down-stream.
The harmonics switch is great at reinvigorating the sound of dead rounds as well.
If the EQ switches aren't of interest to you, I would suggest looking elsewhere, as there are smaller and more affordable buffers available. However, if you want some tone sweetening the EUNA is an amazing option.
It's a great buffer, that does that job very well - with EQ switches off it is clear and transparent, and I have found it useful at maintaining clear and consistent tone regardless of cable length from bass to board. Which is useful fro the occasional time I want some freedom on stage and use 18-20ft cables.
Similarly it does a great job of maintaining the tonal consistency of my signal in longer pedal board and effects chains.
In some signal chains this has rendered a great sense of weight and clarity to the tone, but generally it is very much without what I would describe or perceive as baked-in EQ.
The three EQ switches are brilliant though, and honestly the main reason to buy the pedal over other similar pedals. All three switches have their uses, and work fantastically with bass in my experience.
I almost always have the Low and Bright switches engaged (and very often all three), as I love what this does to the low end, and the bright switch in particular does a very nice thing to drive effects down-stream.
The harmonics switch is great at reinvigorating the sound of dead rounds as well.
If the EQ switches aren't of interest to you, I would suggest looking elsewhere, as there are smaller and more affordable buffers available. However, if you want some tone sweetening the EUNA is an amazing option.
I can afford it too, but as a fact-oriented person, I'm choosing against it.
This device is found on relatively few pro rigs and these are only ever brought up in discussions when it suits the situation.
The fact that, for example, the SansAmp can be found on countless pedalboards of bassists in world-famous bands, is usually ignored or dismissed as irrelevant in discussions about the Noble (which, by the way, I could also afford).
Psychologically understandable and highly interesting.
In professional studios, countless times you make use of really expensive equipment whose sound result is subtle. But it makes a difference on the whole.
EUNA is not just a regular buffer.
SansAmp and Noble are not even comparable, nor directed to the same type of users.
You have got your facts wrong. A buffer works. A good buffer works better. Basics. Homeopathy does not work, it tricks the mind. Your comparison is flawed.
The question was if the EUNA has a baked-in tone in additon to it being a good buffer. Another point is if the high input impedance of the EUNA has an effect. All valid questions about a device. Also, the EUNA offers the possibility to include old Fuzzes and stuff into a pedal chain without messing it up.
The EUNA has its uses and its users, it seems.
The fact that you are not interested does not make those who are crazy people. The train of thought arriving at such a conclusion is psychologically far more interesting than the claim that the Sansamp (that has nothing to do with our topic btw) gets no attention when the Noble is mentioned.
