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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

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Well, a short report on today's visit to effect pedal's shop. I've tried TWA the Great Divide and Wonderlove there, both together and on their own. The TWA octave turned to be much worse than I expected: bad tracking, too noisy and glitches a lot. Synth settings sound so harsh that you can hardly read the pitch, totally unusable. I can't understand the asking price of $400 for it, nonsense.
Wonderlove. Subtle envelope filter, great sound for lighter applications. Controls are quite user-unfriendly IMO, I've been playing with them for half hour but it usually takes shorter to me to find some interesting settings... It took me quite a while to dial in at least the same tone as my Proton has, so the only benefit to me is expression pedal input. Again, Proton+Doom is a great combo. So great that I can stick them together and use as one unit. I actually even learnt how to engage them simultaneously, they are next to each other on my pedalboard, so I stomp with my feet on both at once, works great.
 
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anton72 said:
Well, a short report on today's visit to effect pedal's shop. I've tried TWA the Great Divide and Wonderlove there, both together and on their own. The TWA octave turned to be much worse than I expected: bad tracking, too noisy and glitches a lot. Synth settings sound so harsh that you can hardly read the pitch, totally unusable. I can't understand the asking price of $400 for it, nonsense.
Wonderlove. Subtle envelope filter, great sound for lighter applications. Controls are quite user-unfriendly IMO, I've been playing with them for half hour but it usually takes shorter to me to find some interesting settings... It took me quite a while to dial in at least the same tone as my Proton has, so the only benefit to me is expression pedal input. Again, Proton+Doom is a great combo. So great that I can stick them together and use as one unit. I actually even learnt how to engage them simultaneously, they are next to each other on my pedalboard, so I stomp with my feet on both at once, works great.
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I have to politely disagree, this is by NO means a plug and play pedal. There are 13 Trims pots to "customize" the pedals behavior with yr gear / playing. I love mine and it requires time, patience, and even stepping away for a day or two as to not get overwhelmed.
 
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dharmashawn said:
I have to politely disagree, this is by NO means a plug and play pedal. There are 13 Trims pots to "customize" the pedals behavior with yr gear / playing. I love mine and it requires time, patience, and even stepping away for a day or two as to not get overwhelmed.
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Of course I understood that I just needed longer than I had to dial in a tone I'd like. But what I noticed that the pitch reading is far from being perfect. I compared it with my Akai Deep Impact from this point of view.
 
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anton72 said:
Well, a short report on today's visit to effect pedal's shop. I've tried TWA the Great Divide and Wonderlove there, both together and on their own. The TWA octave turned to be much worse than I expected: bad tracking, too noisy and glitches a lot. Synth settings sound so harsh that you can hardly read the pitch, totally unusable. I can't understand the asking price of $400 for it, nonsense.
Wonderlove. Subtle envelope filter, great sound for lighter applications. Controls are quite user-unfriendly IMO, I've been playing with them for half hour but it usually takes shorter to me to find some interesting settings... It took me quite a while to dial in at least the same tone as my Proton has, so the only benefit to me is expression pedal input. Again, Proton+Doom is a great combo. So great that I can stick them together and use as one unit. I actually even learnt how to engage them simultaneously, they are next to each other on my pedalboard, so I stomp with my feet on both at once, works great.
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Thanks for reminding me the grass is not always greener, and that i already got the goods with my proton-doom combo. (Thanks also for the tip re stomping on them at same time; i also have them side-by-side on my board.)

That said, I know I'll still end up picking up a WL eventually. In that Paul Turner vid, the WL sounds just too sick to pass up!

@halfjackson, interested in hearing how the comparison goes for you...
 
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Had to share my mini-discovery today (sorry if this is old news)...
Dimeing the gain knob on the proton to max or close to it on downsweep mode (+ You're Doom and palm muting) really helps get a consistent "yeow" a la Stevie moog sound (e.g., Too High). I know the instructions say crank the gain "a bit" on downsweep, but I went for the gusto, and it really helps. Can't wait to use this at tonight's gig!
 
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zekebass808 said:
Had to share my mini-discovery today (sorry if this is old news)...
Dimeing the gain knob on the proton to max or close to it on downsweep mode (+ You're Doom and palm muting) really helps get a consistent "yeow" a la Stevie moog sound (e.g., Too High). I know the instructions say crank the gain "a bit" on downsweep, but I went for the gusto, and it really helps. Can't wait to use this at tonight's gig!
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I'll give that a setting a spin. I really try to not find a good setting on a pedal and leave it without continuing to explore, but sometimes I do. I've been good about it lately.

And that Paul Turner video is sick. His facial expression says it all.

Have a good gig, man.
 
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zekebass808 said:
Had to share my mini-discovery today (sorry if this is old news)...
Dimeing the gain knob on the proton to max or close to it on downsweep mode (+ You're Doom and palm muting) really helps get a consistent "yeow" a la Stevie moog sound (e.g., Too High). I know the instructions say crank the gain "a bit" on downsweep, but I went for the gusto, and it really helps. Can't wait to use this at tonight's gig!
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I've tried your Proton&Doom settings you described above. I've never turned gain too much but man, this setting gives you crazy synth-envelope tone together with toggle switch down and Doom engaged. Thanks for this tip!
 
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I use both because the Proton and Wonderlove react differently to my TAFM, oc-2 and subterranea. Maybe I'll kick one of them off if I get a Xerograph, but as of now they are different enough in my opinion to warrant having both.

I'll also add that I have both the v1 proton and the white v2 proton and prefer the v1, which is on my board. I suppose that's good considering there are only 25 of the white ones out there and I would hate to mess it up, but I found more tonal diversity having the band switch over the decay knob that is present on the v2 models. Ymmv of course
 
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anton72 said:
I've tried your Proton&Doom settings you described above. I've never turned gain too much but man, this setting gives you crazy synth-envelope tone together with toggle switch down and Doom engaged. Thanks for this tip!
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Yeah, on up-sweep too much gain can kill the effect very easily, and I like to set it just at point (and no higher) where I can "play" the filter with touch/dynamics. But on down-sweep, I've found almost the opposite - maxing out the gain forces the envelope closed even with light palm muting, which totally cops the down-sweep synth vibe.
 
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