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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

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most of everyone I've seen, didnt use the switch at all (down), and I rarely see anyone use the sub channel, or even twist the tone to the right. The Tim tuning adds more lows, overall sounds smoother, and this reflects in the tone control as well. Definitely gives the pedal a bespoke character. I don't know what it does technically, and I'm not even sure it's noted anywhere from Spencer, similar to the sub channel. I'm sure he described it here years ago when people asked about having it added though.

That switch mod had a lot to do with the name of the pedal
 
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labeledbass said:
The Tim tuning adds more lows, overall sounds smoother, and this reflects in the tone control as well. Definitely gives the pedal a bespoke character. I don't know what it does technically, and I'm not even sure it's noted anywhere from Spencer, similar to the sub channel. I'm sure he described it here years ago when people asked about having it added though.
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I'll add that not only does it add more lows but BIG lows. Even more so when you start moving the blend to the wet side of things. I didn't realize how much until I heard what was being pushed through the PA mains. Let's just say I ticked off a few sound engineers at certain venues. It seemed fine if I kept the mix of the octave a bit lower (i.e. more dry). I've resorted to using my other octave pedals for now. I will say I found the quality of sound from the Octabvre to be exceptional and it tracked very well. I also really liked how the tone knob changed the vibe of the octave sounds.
 
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warptheory said:
I need a history lesson of Octabvre.

Mark I - I rarely see this one, but seems like almost the same as the MKII without the Tim switch.
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Mark II - Big white box with Tim switch
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Mini - I think this is based on the Mark II, but with no Tim switch nor sub volume. Might be based off the Mark I?
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Mark III - the latest incarnation. Tim switch with separate stomps for engage and sub only.

Can someone tell me what the Mini is based off of?

Also other than the Tim switch and stomps and knobs, what is the difference between them all? I've watched some comparisons and they sound similar but different lol.
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Another difference that I forgot: the MkIII has clean volume/octave volume instead of having a volume/blend, which all the others have. I happen to prefer separate volumes, but others prefer the volume/blend. YMMV
 
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labeledbass said:
most of everyone I've seen doesn't even switch that down anymore, and I rarely see anyone use the sub channel, or even twist the tone to the right.
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I definitely keep the Tim switch up but I use the sub channel a lot. It's why the couple of times I tried switching to the mini (or other octave pedals for that matter), I would end up going back to the Octabvre...even when that meant the larger footprint before the Mk III was released.
 
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kazuhank said:
I definitely keep the Tim switch up but I use the sub channel a lot. It's why the couple of times I tried switching to the mini (or other octave pedals for that matter), I would end up going back to the Octabvre...even when that meant the larger footprint before the Mk III was released.
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I agree, I see some call the mk3 the more mid focused, whenever I need more low end, I go with the sub channel.
 
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warptheory said:
Thank you!

Also, what exactly does the Tim switch do?
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labeledbass said:
most of everyone I've seen, didnt use the switch at all (down), and I rarely see anyone use the sub channel, or even twist the tone to the right. The Tim tuning adds more lows, overall sounds smoother, and this reflects in the tone control as well. Definitely gives the pedal a bespoke character. I don't know what it does technically, and I'm not even sure it's noted anywhere from Spencer, similar to the sub channel. I'm sure he described it here years ago when people asked about having it added though.

That switch mod had a lot to do with the name of the pedal
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kazuhank said:
I definitely keep the Tim switch up but I use the sub channel a lot. It's why the couple of times I tried switching to the mini (or other octave pedals for that matter), I would end up going back to the Octabvre...even when that meant the larger footprint before the Mk III was released.
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I also never turn off the Tim voice (switch always up). It's magnificently synthy. It's definitely removing some highs because it makes the tone more dubby.
 
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Having owned an original MKI, a Tim-tuned MKI, a MKIII, and now a Mini I will caution that, to my ears at least, the Mini does not sound the same as the Tim-tuned MKI or the MKIII in Tim mode. It feels slightly less gigantic down low compared to the Tim-tuned MKI, which I view as a good thing. It also feels less mid-heavy than the MKIII, which can be good or bad depending on the situation. My ultimate preference would be an MKIII without the sub switch. I love what that swtich does, but my large feet were constantly trying to only hit the on/off switch and sometimes catching the sub switch at the same time. The Mini was the best compromise for me as a player, and the tonal differences were apparent. I keep hearing that the Mini uses the Tim tuning, but to my ears it's not a 1:1 with the other Tim options that I've owned.
 
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What's funny about me using the MKIII and stumbling with the footswitches is that I'm an avid rock climber. A huge part of the sport is being accurate on very small and delicate foot placements. I can be hanging off of a cliff face and use the tiniest little imperfection in a slab of granite to support my body weight on my big toe, and yet it was a coin toss as to which switch I was going to hit on a gig. Again, this is a me problem and not necessarily one that anyone else would need to concern themselves with. Fortunately I've got my Mini and that works wonderfully for my needs.
 
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silky smoove said:
What's funny about me using the MKIII and stumbling with the footswitches is that I'm an avid rock climber. A huge part of the sport is being accurate on very small and delicate foot placements. I can be hanging off of a cliff face and use the tiniest little imperfection in a slab of granite to support my body weight on my big toe, and yet it was a coin toss as to which switch I was going to hit on a gig. Again, this is a me problem and not necessarily one that anyone else would need to concern themselves with. Fortunately I've got my Mini and that works wonderfully for my needs.
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You need to drill a hole in some rocks and use those at switch toppers. :cool:
 
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I have the mkIII and almost always use it with the sub-solo for when I need synthy stuff.

I have a tall boy barefoot and a Mooer shroom. Perfect combo imho to alleviate the accuracy concern. I’ve never had an issue. Pedal is also squished right next to others of similar size with top jacks.

I always had my eye on the mkII but it was just too big. Then the mini came out, but no sub solo footswitch. The mkIII is the best of everything. I haven’t found another sub pedal that I would every replace it with. Although I pretty much stopped looking for those when I snagged the III.
 
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kazuhank said:
I just make room for the Mk. II.
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To each their own. I downsized to a mini board so just not room. Besides, I already have the III.

I may have jumped on a II before the III came out, but I didn’t have the money at the time.

Honestly, they don’t sound that different to me, at least not in any meaningful way.

I actually swapped out some of my other boutique pedals in favor of a Stomp (heresy, I know). My rig is substantially smaller and lighter , and not a single person has noticed. Doesn’t do a great octave tho, so the Octabvre remains on the board.
 
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silky smoove said:
Tried it, thought it would work, continued being a problem. It's a user-specific concern that was a dealbreaker for me, and is a complete non-issue for others.
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I use the tallest one for octave, and a little tiny one, almost not even there, for sub. Size 13 shoe though, I engage the left button with the right side of my shoe, and opposite for the other. But it did cause some waves when it came out, that was its main "con"
 
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jdjk7 said:
Another difference with the MkIII, though, is that it is buffered bypass instead of the rest being true bypass.
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Wow, I never even noticed this fact until now. I just checked the manual and it says "transparent active bypass system with proprietary electronic switching". I've read the manual before but I wasn't even thinking about it, I was just sure that all 3Leaf pedals are true bypass. Interesting!
 
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mouthmw said:
"transparent active bypass system with proprietary electronic switching".
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If you really dig newer tech like this, its worth getting the driver out and looking inside. His system for the stomp switch is really cool, you start to understand why his cases are important to him, if he has a lot of this design ready to drop in.
 
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