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Aguilar - AG Preamp Pedal

#41
fishdude101101 said:
I'm playing everything from classic country to hard rock, covers only. Main bass is a g&l l-1000 5string or a 5 string jazz. But yeah were going for opposite sounds here. I'd probably never cut bass that way, I'd use and hpf instead. Pokey middy tone just not my thing. Aguilar stuff to me just has a thing sound.
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Well I'm not sure we're that far off. It's just with my bartolini pickups, and the "low z" setting on my audere it can get boomy. More of a setup difference. Probably in one of the other settings on my audere pre it would behave differently. z mode switch is pretty cool. I'm still playing with my current preamp pedal to dial in a good tone. This new pedal is intriguing. May have to trade up.
 
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Yeah obviously a Fodera is capable of pretty much any tone you want, but I agree that many spotlight players tend to use it like a jazz bass on steroids. And to their credit, they're all getting paid for it, otherwise they probably wouldn't be playing a Fodera in the first place.

The real question we should be asking in this thread; how many Fodera players are plugging into Aggie heads or pedals and making that dude with the beef about midrange angry? :roflmao:
 
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#48
gscroggin said:
…unless you’re Stu Brooks. Big fat bass from that boy, at least when he’s with Dub Trio. Obviously there are tons of others, just look at the artists list. But I agree, the burpy midrange thing is also a solid sound from Aggie.
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Well, I'll just say this. Every example of this pedal that Aguilar has has produced has been bass-shy. Same way with most of their product demos.

For most of TB that is just fine, you'll find way more posts on here about people cutting low end than adding it.
 
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fishdude101101 said:
Well, I'll just say this. Every example of this pedal that Aguilar has has produced has been bass-shy. Same way with most of their product demos.

For most of TB that is just fine, you'll find way more posts on here about people cutting low end than adding it.
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Definitely a good point, which is a shame, when you think of something with a history like the DB750/1. I find much of the allure with that amp is how you feel it, both on stage and in an audience. If Aggie (or really any one for that matter) made a convincing version of it as a pedal or even an amp under 10 lbs, I'd be first in line. But really, how would I know it's the real deal unless I could feel it in person? I don't know how anyone can really convey that sort of thing in a video that's likely delivered in a compressed format to smart phone most likely, without it ending up sounding muddy, unless they put some serious coin and talent into solid mixing. When I think about years gone by and how I'd consider gear investments, it didn't involve the Internet; what did so-and-so use on the album, what did I see them with live, what was available at the local music store, and then of course what could I afford. But with more things headed toward silent stages, modeling, IRs, IEMs, ultra-focused frequency mixing, sample replacement...perhaps the market is fading anyway for big fat old school thickness that isn't synthesized.

Anyway, I feel like I'm way OT at this point so I'll stop :laugh:
 
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gscroggin said:
Definitely a good point, which is a shame, when you think of something with a history like the DB750/1. I find much of the allure with that amp is how you feel it, both on stage and in an audience. If Aggie (or really any one for that matter) made a convincing version of it as a pedal or even an amp under 10 lbs, I'd be first in line. But really, how would I know it's the real deal unless I could feel it in person? I don't know how anyone can really convey that sort of thing in a video that's likely delivered in a compressed format to smart phone most likely, without it ending up sounding muddy, unless they put some serious coin and talent into solid mixing. When I think about years gone by and how I'd consider gear investments, it didn't involve the Internet; what did so-and-so use on the album, what did I see them with live, what was available at the local music store, and then of course what could I afford. But with more things headed toward silent stages, modeling, IRs, IEMs, ultra-focused frequency mixing, sample replacement...perhaps the market is fading anyway for big fat old school thickness that isn't synthesized.

Anyway, I feel like I'm way OT at this point so I'll stop :laugh:
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That's a fair point, but when they, or any other company do these bass-shy demos, who is the target audience?
 
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#52
MingusBass said:
I picked mine up from Sweetwater yesterday morning and wouldn't you know it, it sounds like an AG! For those of us that love that sound, it's an answer to prayers. I typically keep the bright and deep switches always on when using my AG700 so the second switch seems superfluous but some might find it useful.

When putting it on my pedalboard yesterday I had to position it differently than my tonehammer due to the fact the XLR out is on the side, not the top. That means that I can't have it too close to the left handle on my Temple Board. Not a deal breaker, but something to keep in mind when it comes to pedalboard placement.

The bonus is that it's nearly half the height of the ToneHammer so I could probably squeeze another pedal above it on my small board.View attachment 5129085
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Can you tell us the dimensions? Aguilar didn't post it anywhere it seems...
 
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fishdude101101 said:
Seems shortsighted. Are there people making these buying decisions without listening to these demos on decent headphones? If so that's sad.
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I dont think anything comes close to the Real Thing; having it on YOUR board, with YOUR gain settings. Anything else is short sighted. Youve got to take your chances. These $300 pedal preamps are really competitive. Brand
Loyalty or Brand Abhorrence probably wind up sealing the deal in most cases. The feature that makes this pedal stand out for me are the Aux In and Headphone jack. Rather unique in these things. Ive been made aware of two others- Broughton Messenger and an EBS that do this. I have zero experience with Aguilar products. I have avoided them because im not crazy about mass production.
 
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fishdude101101 said:
Seems shortsighted. Are there people making these buying decisions without listening to these demos on decent headphones? If so that's sad.
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sure they are, I imagine a majority of video plays are through laptop or phone, and only a small number hook up to something full range. But that's ok sometimes the brand and the style alone will sell the pedal, without having some kind of full range listen.
The other thing that's different over the last however many years is PA's have got better and subs better - a lot of time the sub bass is taken up by the kick and the bass sits above it. The kinda scooped mids you tend to get with massive low end isn't always the goal. That said if they are making gear for a different market to you then that's ok, you can just find whatever your thing is. Personally I can't stand the tone of most Darkglass stuff I've tried/heard - but Darkglass are doing just fine without worrying that I'm not a customer of theirs!
 
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