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Albums that absolutely BLEW...

#101
Oric said:
I love Philosophy of the World! Sure, it doesn't hold to standard pop writing or any sort of Western ideas of music theory, but it sounds exactly how they wanted it to sound, and they managed to record it and release it. That's a lot better than we can do, for me, it's the ultimate musical expression, pure creation without anyone telling you how you have to do it.
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To me it sounds like 3 young girls that know jack %?* about music & just had a overly motivated father who wanted to record them.
Don't give me western ideology of music thing on this one, you can't deny that it's 3 talentless sisters playing.

You say it sounds exactly how they wanted it, yeah right, it sounds the only way they could have made it sound. It's not like they know how to play any other way IMO.

Unlike music like dodecaphonism, serialism, music concrete, avant guarde ,freejazz or even punk rock where the composer had clear intentions of defying the norm, I think they where just clueless.

IMO this album was chosen is some strange way to be some sort of representation of a musical ideology or philosophy that goes against tradition. Zappa mentionning he liked the record was IMO a factor in this to.

And yes I get the fact that it is self expression & pure creation in the philosophical sense.

IMO.
 
#102
ugly_bassplayer said:
To me it sounds like 3 young girls that know jack %?* about music ...(snip)... you can't deny that it's 3 talentless sisters playing.
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Yep. Not disagreeing at all.

ugly_bassplayer said:
You say it sounds exactly how they wanted it, yeah right, it sounds the only way they could have made it sound. It's not like they know how to play any other way IMO.
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Yep. Not disagreeing at all.

ugly_bassplayer said:
Unlike music like dodecaphonism, serialism, music concrete, avant guarde ,freejazz or even punk rock where the composer had clear intentions of defying the norm, I think they where just clueless.
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re: the "clueless" part, yep, not disagreeing at all.

But it's precisely because of all the things you cite that the Shaggs album is such a landmark. They are entirely devoid of not just talent, but also of any awareness whatsoever of how music typically functions. It's like they lived their entire lives in a vacuum, with no exposure to popular culture. Their naïveté is pristine, unsullied.

And fwiw, there are lots of people writing dodecaphonism, serialism, music concrete, avant guarde, freejazz or even punk rock who are clueless...but they're not pristinely naïve, they just bit off more than they could chew. That's why those folks just suck, whereas the Shaggs are at least infamous.
 
#103
jmattbassplaya said:
Although not a bad album, the latest Iron Maiden album was a HUGE let down for me. It was the first album of theirs I had to force myself to sit down and listen to because nothing just grabbed me and said "LISTEN UP!". Even after listening through it twice there was nothing to be found that was memorable or even worth ripping onto my computer.
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Yeah it wasn't the best, and I barely listen to it now. As of late, it's Brave New World > A Matter of Life and Death > Dance of Death

jollygiantchris said:
Incubus - A Crow Left of Murder
I expected so much more. And it was so much less.
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I actually really enjoy it, but to each his own. I'm not a big Incubus fan though.
 
#104
WJGreer said:
Rush's Vapor Trails has great music, but the amount of compression on the recording makes it almost unlistenable. I thought it might have been the best example of a decent album ruined by terrible production until I bought Level 42's latest album, "Retroglide", which takes the overcompression problem to a whole different level. I can't believe that they released it like that.
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if you listen to the rush in rio dvd, during the interview parts they used alot of the instrumental tracks but had them remastered, and they sounded -so much better-. this cd -needs- substantial remastering, i think, before folks will realize just how great it is. as it is, it is actually difficult for me to listen to because of all the distortion in the finished product.
 
#105
re:the shaggs

what can be heard can never be unheard. :eek: :atoz:

actually, i agree with hoover's comment :

But it's precisely because of all the things you cite that the Shaggs album is such a landmark. They are entirely devoid of not just talent, but also of any awareness whatsoever of how music typically functions. It's like they lived their entire lives in a vacuum, with no exposure to popular culture. Their naïveté is pristine, unsullied.
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#106
Hoover said:
But it's precisely because of all the things you cite that the Shaggs album is such a landmark. They are entirely devoid of not just talent, but also of any awareness whatsoever of how music typically functions. It's like they lived their entire lives in a vacuum, with no exposure to popular culture. Their naïveté is pristine, unsullied.
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Good point. I agree.
 
#107
john turner said:
if you listen to the rush in rio dvd, during the interview parts they used alot of the instrumental tracks but had them remastered, and they sounded -so much better-. this cd -needs- substantial remastering, i think, before folks will realize just how great it is. as it is, it is actually difficult for me to listen to because of all the distortion in the finished product.
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They're released a couple remastered tracks, both on Retrospective 3, and it really is night/day. VT is so good, and so ruined.
 
#113
Valerus said:
Yeah it wasn't the best, and I barely listen to it now. As of late, it's Brave New World > A Matter of Life and Death > Dance of Death
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I thought Brave New World was a great album - very solid from start to finish - and I think it`ll be able to withstand the test of time as much as Number of the Beast, Powerslave, and Piece of Mind will be able to.

I rate their albums:

Killers
Iron Maiden
Brave New World
Caught Somewhere in Time
Piece of Mind
Number of the Beast
Seventh Son
Powerslave
Fear of the Dark
... and from there on out each album has a decent song, but overall is lacking - I guess I`d say the other albums (not including the live ones) aren`t that great. IMHO,YMMV, yadda yadda yadda....
 
#115
The Knack - Get the Knack

My Sharona was great... but every other song on the album was just a very slight variation on My Sharona :rollno: This album disappointed me more than any album before or since. But I hope I am not just getting jaded.
 
#116
jollygiantchris said:
Incubus - A Crow Left of Murder
I expected so much more. And it was so much less.
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Hmm, really? My first listen to it was really disappointing, but after I listened to it a couple of times it really grew on me and became my second favourite Incubus album (behind SCIENCE, and tied with Enjoy Incubus). What was really disappointing and a crappy album was Light Grenades. I used to be a fan of Incubus, and I guess I don't mind listening to their earlier work, but as far as new songs go count me out.
 
#118
THE biggest disappointment I had was when I bought Pink Floyd's The Final Cut. It's basically a Roger Waters solo album. So, so bad.

After that, the day I bought U2's POP album. Terrible. And every U2 album after that has been swill.

Runners up would be the last Soundgarden album. Very boring.

In Through The Out Door

Bjork's Drawing Restraint Nine. I usually find her stuff quirky and fun but that was just droning BS.

... And Justice For All. THE worst mix in the history of music. All guitar and snare with a clicky bass drum. And as you all know there's no bass!

But, I have to say, I LOVE The Brown Album! But I'm a Tom Waits fan and that's the aesthetic they were going for. The song are great on that record. Way better than Tales From The Punchbowl... which I also like.
 

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