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All Things Must Beat. Share Anything Beatles!!
- Thread starter Rumble Thunder
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John Lennon liked the Raspberries. They met at the Record Plant when John was recording Starting Over.
The Raspberries Meet John Lennon – Rickresource
The Raspberries Meet John Lennon – Rickresource
Sets the tone for how the Beatles worked together. John complained that Maxwell costed the Beatles a lot of money to record. It took three days! He was asked to get involved and walked out. I think that he had his nose out of joint because the others went into the studio without him while he was recovering from his car accident. Abbey Road consistently makes a lot of money. John was wrong for whining about it.
Paul has said that George was hardly there during the recording of Pepper. Paul knew what he wanted and unfortunately the others were big headed and didn’t like being told what to do.
Paul has said that George was hardly there during the recording of Pepper. Paul knew what he wanted and unfortunately the others were big headed and didn’t like being told what to do.
Say what you will about "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" AND "Ob‐La‐Di, Ob‐La‐Da", I find both of them fun to play on bass.
I believe the others were a little offended with Paul because he stepped into what is typically the producer’s role. The producer is usually “allowed” to tell the musicians what and how to play. As is demonstrated by the Let It Be/Get Back sessions, Paul was not really playing his position so to speak and it offended the others especially George since he left the band. Paul ran into a bit of trouble when he was being so particular about what George played and how he played it. So then what it became was the music didn’t have the Beatles contributing to the track instead the others were simply parroting what Paul dictated. It isn’t playing and creating together so where is the fun and enjoyment in that? I personally don’t blame the others for resenting Paul for overstepping his bounds and yet I don’t blame Paul for trying to pull everyone together to produce great music. I think Paul is a brilliant artist with immense creative genius but I do believe he crossed over into other roles which caused resentment from the rest of the band.
The Beatles song "Run For Your Life" on the Rubber Soul album was based around a line from an Elvis Presley song "Baby, Let’s Play House", recorded by Presley in 1955, written by Arthur Gunter.
Run For Your Life lyrics
Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am
Baby, Let’s Play House lyrics
Now listen to me baby
Try to understand
I’d rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
Now baby
Run For Your Life lyrics
Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am
Baby, Let’s Play House lyrics
Now listen to me baby
Try to understand
I’d rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
Now baby
Beatles related…Denny Laine has had some major health issues, and Chris Carter has organized a benefit show for him…
Stars Come Together In Aid Of Denny Laine - Beat Magazine
Stars Come Together In Aid Of Denny Laine - Beat Magazine
I think a very big problem with the Let It Be/Get Back sessions, as you point out, is the lack of an acknowledged & authorized producer during recording.
George Martin, for whatever reason, was not really allowed to "do his thing" for this special album, and it shows. And poor Glyn Johns was tasked, several times, with trying to generate an album mix acceptable to The Beatles; all to no avail. And Phil Spector wasn't even brought in until a year after the sessions, when the movie's imminent release was putting pressure on having an accompanying album!
So, just like when Paul tried to fill the gap of Manager, after Brian died, by calling the others into the studio for the next albums, Paul also tried to fill the obviously lacking Producer role during these recording sessions. Of course, neither of those stop-gaps endeared him to the others (even though they had no better solutions to propose).
If Paul hadn't apologized, or whatever, to George Martin after the Let It Be/Get Back sessions, and promised him his old style acknowledged & authorized Producer role, there never would have been the Abbey Road album nor, possibly, any other new Beatles album!
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Partly interesting because in the John post-Beatles session that’s upthread a bit, Yoko very much imposed her opinion about the session in a couple of spots.
It’s always amazing to me that the Beatles are sill in the “news”
I like it though.
I like it though.
Ha! Lucky for the DC5 there was no DVR or social media then. They would have been roasted like Ashlee Simpson. The older generation probably would have gone on about how no one can pull off playing live anymore like Glenn Miller and Louis Armstrong did.
Ironic, because the Dave Clark Five had done plenty of live shows for years and were likely a more than decent live act.
Dave Clark must have insisted on having the band mime to playback because the band's sound on record depended to such an extreme degree on the use of unorthodox levels of reverb and echo.
I've read up extensively on the Dave Clark Five. Yes, Bobby Graham did most of the drumming on the records. Bobby Graham finally admitted it late in life, shortly before he died. He did go on to say that he didn't play anything D.C. couldn't have played just as well; but Dave was up in the control room, directing the sessions.
And Dave C. did apparently arrange to be listed as a writer for the song credits without actually contributing or else, in some cases, bringing in songs actually written by a friend of his who didn't get listed as a songwriter and who was presumably paid on a per-song basis.
And he jealously guarded the rights to the songs from the '70s onward, which is why the band's music has been heard so seldom through the decades. That might have been a bad business decision.
Still, he was, it seems, the first and only British rock'n'roll guy to have the foresight to negotiate contracts whereby the rights to all of the original Dave Clark Five material, including the master tapes, reverted to him after a short time. Not even the former London School of Economics student Mick Jagger had the nerve to ask for that deal.
Plenty could be said about Dave Clark's business practices; but it's too bad he wasn't approached by bands to negotiate on behalf of, e.g., the Beatles, Ray Davies/Kinks, etc., when they were starting out, or even later.
Contrast his lucrative record company arrangements with Ray Davies' deal (described quite accurately in the song posted below, or so Ray has said in his autobiographies).
Edit: Listening to Moneygoround now, it sure sounds surprisingly much like a Squeeze song or two from a few years later.
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Well, whadayaknow? I never suspected that the DC5 was Britain's pre-version of America's Prefab Four, The Monkees! Except the DC5's builder was in front of the cameras, if not the studio mics, with his creation. Who knew?
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John Lennon has said that he got the Monkees and their American take on the Beatles mixed with the comedy of the Marx Bros. Comedy was always big in England, George Martin recorded some of their favourite comedians.
The Partridge Family was another TV show with actors who sang. It was part of the times. There were music variety shows. Paul Revere and the Raiders had Where The Action Is. R&B shows. Dick Clark productions. Johnny Cash, Kenny Rogers, The Carpenters, John Denver, etc, etc. There were Beatle, the Osmonds, Jackson 5, and even the Archies cartoons.
The DC5 were popular and had hits. Many bands were tightly managed and had studio session players making their records. Producers also took credit and a percentage for songwriting. Nothing new there. Elvis didn’t write his songs. He and the Col took a huge percentage. Songwriters got less than they would with other recording artists. But Elvis sold a lot of product.
The music business is exactly that, a for profit business.
The Partridge Family was another TV show with actors who sang. It was part of the times. There were music variety shows. Paul Revere and the Raiders had Where The Action Is. R&B shows. Dick Clark productions. Johnny Cash, Kenny Rogers, The Carpenters, John Denver, etc, etc. There were Beatle, the Osmonds, Jackson 5, and even the Archies cartoons.
The DC5 were popular and had hits. Many bands were tightly managed and had studio session players making their records. Producers also took credit and a percentage for songwriting. Nothing new there. Elvis didn’t write his songs. He and the Col took a huge percentage. Songwriters got less than they would with other recording artists. But Elvis sold a lot of product.
The music business is exactly that, a for profit business.
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