...admittedly, I'm horrible at identifying certain electronic styles. I couldn't correctly/consistently identify an artist as psy-trance or jungle or IDM or techno or acid house.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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Yeah, like what do these two songs have in common?
(And I'm not knocking either of them...I like both!)
Heck, Meddle covers at least three or four genres in the span of one album.
That Cynic track would definitely fit in my brain as a pop track with some jazzy bits and distortion. I’ve never heard it before, but you found a good example of my personal (grumpy) definition of “metal that isn’t really metal.”
imo, the difference between early metalish bands and later ones is that they’ve progressively gotten rid of the blues influence.
Rick Beato (I think) did a video on Nu Metal and what made it sound as it did. He pointed out that it had essentially no remaining evidence of blues influence that other metal bands had held on to. The compositions simply didn’t have blues feeling in the swing, the riffs, or the solos (not that Nu Metal was big on solos).
Sabbath clearly had a blues influence. The NWOBHM retained that. The thrash and speed metal that followed still held some. Early Metallica had some blues swing rhythms, and Kirk kept ripping pentatonic licks. You could hear those remnants occasionally in bands like Megadeth and Testament, but I don’t think Slayer had much.
Into the 90s you started to hear more electronic, industrial, and hip-hop crossing into metal. Surprisingly, Ministry has some obvious blues elements despite the industrial direction. Rob Zombie certainly kept some blues and rock swagger in his brand of metal. Pantera was pretty riff heavy, but Dime and crew still folded it in.
I can’t say much of the death metal I listened to had blues elements I can recall. Carcass, Sepultura, Obituary. Probably not much there.
I could ramble on, but I’m sure I’m not saying anything that isn’t preaching to the choir.
just imagine what happens 99% of the time when people learn that i’m a huge hip hop fanatic.
/love hip hop, tired of defending it.
/love hip hop, tired of defending it.
As we always say, you like what you like. I have greatly enjoyed the flowering of metal over the last couple decades. I've found lots of little niches I like--doom, post metal, djent, improv/experimental, etc. I like instrumental hip hop but generally have little interest in rap. Ditto in rock. Because I'm an academic, generally my friends who are into indyrock love all the lyrically driven stuff. And some friends into singer-songwriter stuff (cough Bob Dylan cough), or politically conscious punk. I get it, but I could not care less about lyrics. If I want to be edified by words, I'll read, thank you. That's my day job.
Then, I was on a MA exam this week that discussed Esperanza Spalding's "To Tide Us Over." It breaks all the rules of what I like, and yet, I really liked it. I thought it was very clever that her concept album addresses different parts of her own body.
So apparently I shouldn't even argues with myself about taste.
Then, I was on a MA exam this week that discussed Esperanza Spalding's "To Tide Us Over." It breaks all the rules of what I like, and yet, I really liked it. I thought it was very clever that her concept album addresses different parts of her own body.
So apparently I shouldn't even argues with myself about taste.
You say that like it's a bad thing...
just an observation, not a bad thing, per se… unless the reason to get rid of it was racist, not musical. (fwiw, i love rammstein, but their attempts to “swing” or add something “bluesy” are often terrible.)
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All these attempts at nit picking tiny differences in sub genres is pretty dopey anyway, I think.
Perfect
Speaking about genre, in the late 90s/early 00s I got into 20th century classical music, which includes a lot of "electronic music" (stuff like Varese's Poème électronique, Stockhausen's Kontakte, etc.) - the Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music compilation helped, plus the fact that I was living in Berkeley and worked across the street from Amoeba Music on Telegraph Avenue.
At one point I bumped into a classmate (I was in grad school studying Buddhism) and she asked me, "do you like electronic music?" I wasn't sure how to answer - what kind of electronic music was she talking about? - but said "yes" - then she asked if I wanted to go see The Orb! I said yes again - it was an amazing concert! They had a bassist who I think played with them a lot, on one song I couldn't believe it, they were "jamming" and peaked with the crowd, I never expected that. A girl dancing next to me noticed my shock and said "aren't they amazing?!" and I could only agree with her.
I'm basically not a fan of genre, I like to try and enjoy music without those added (superfluous?) conceptualizations, though of course I do it myself sometimes too. What really bugs me is when Tangerine Dream is found in the New Age category at the record store
At one point I bumped into a classmate (I was in grad school studying Buddhism) and she asked me, "do you like electronic music?" I wasn't sure how to answer - what kind of electronic music was she talking about? - but said "yes" - then she asked if I wanted to go see The Orb! I said yes again - it was an amazing concert! They had a bassist who I think played with them a lot, on one song I couldn't believe it, they were "jamming" and peaked with the crowd, I never expected that. A girl dancing next to me noticed my shock and said "aren't they amazing?!" and I could only agree with her.
I'm basically not a fan of genre, I like to try and enjoy music without those added (superfluous?) conceptualizations, though of course I do it myself sometimes too. What really bugs me is when Tangerine Dream is found in the New Age category at the record store
The orb absolutely slay live so I’ve heard multiple times.Speaking about genre, in the late 90s/early 00s I got into 20th century classical music, which includes a lot of "electronic music" (stuff like Varese's Poème électronique, Stockhausen's Kontakte, etc.) - the Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music compilation helped, plus the fact that I was living in Berkeley and worked across the street from Amoeba Music on Telegraph Avenue.
At one point I bumped into a classmate (I was in grad school studying Buddhism) and she asked me, "do you like electronic music?" I wasn't sure how to answer - what kind of electronic music was she talking about? - but said "yes" - then she asked if I wanted to go see The Orb! I said yes again - it was an amazing concert! They had a bassist who I think played with them a lot, on one song I couldn't believe it, they were "jamming" and peaked with the crowd, I never expected that. A girl dancing next to me noticed my shock and said "aren't they amazing?!" and I could only agree with her.
I'm basically not a fan of genre, I like to try and enjoy music without those added (superfluous?) conceptualizations, though of course I do it myself sometimes too. What really bugs me is when Tangerine Dream is found in the New Age category at the record store
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I’ll be continuing my ongoing experiments with mixing CV signals. I might end up with something like a TipTop MISO, though my Zoia has a CV mixer function. I might also end up with one of those fancy display/oscilloscope modules that shows the wave shapes.
It took me a while to get comfortable with the game of mixing CV, but that seems to be where my head is these days.
It took me a while to get comfortable with the game of mixing CV, but that seems to be where my head is these days.
I went to the Berkeley store yesterday! I am very fortunate to live in Oakland.I’m wearing an Amoeba Records T-shirt right now
Also yay vinyl! Even though I don't collect anymore. Between my dad's collection and my own, I used to have thousands of records!
Tangerine Dream released a live album on bandcamp yestrerday. Loving this:
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Kinda like that, especially once it gets going a ways in. Them boys ain’t afraid to commit to the eighth note
I’m still my boring, predictable self going deeper down the Autechre rabbithole. Found some cool bonus cuts from old imports and live gigs. Didn’t know about this Strreolab remix, but I really like it
