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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

I miss my band. 2020 killed it good. Now they are dispersed to the four winds, physically and relationally. Two of the key members apparently had a falling out with each other over something and so that's that I guess. One of them is halfway across the country anyway.

I'm glad I pestered them to finally get in the studio and record an album when we had the chance. Too many bands do good things and have no permanent record to show for it.
I hear that…. Despite being in this band since 2013, we lost a guitarist due to him breaking the other guitarist guitar and punching out singer mid set… changed name and liked the 4 members so we’re doing good.
Then drummer decides to be a baker and lifestyle doesn’t suit, went through a few drummers and got one that Stuck for 2 years and he then decides he’s too depressed to play drums anymore.

long time no drummer with no prospects for 3 years and almost ready to give up when guitarists brother said he will drum for us a year ago! So… yeah I more than hear the drama thing!
(Plus we are all married with kids compared to when we started in 2013!)
 
Did I mention how annoying it is (as an amateur/hobbyist) to listen to a mix on headphones and monitors then play the same mix through a phone speaker and find the “slight” reverb and delay sounds get compressed and level up from ambient to overwhelming?

*** Please note, having an acceptable mix for playback on phone speakers is a goal on this project for reasons.

The pain, I feel it. Actually, I dont have that issue with reverb in particular. It is eq pocketing for me. But still, I hear you.
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Yeah, I met him years ago when I did some talks in Australia. We are occasionally in touch. I will pass along your compliment!

I just got home from our 4-day recording session. It was super fun. We were prepared and organized, and the engineer was perfect for us. They get us and had some good suggestions. I think the record is going to turn out great. Between everyone's travel schedules the earliest the mixes will be finished is September. I learned that we are not "post-rock" which is now too solidified of a genre. We are progressive, or "neo-progressive." I'm ok with that.

I got to use the Martin Keith touch guitar, the Linnstrument, the Micromonsta 2 AND one of my modular cases, which sounded wild and fantastic. Made me want to play modular in the band again but I think I know better. We'll see. I will also get my first piano credit on this, though it's mostly power chords. I slipped in some 3rds and 9ths where I could. I also knew to stay out of everyone else's way, which is the advantage of being a beginning pianist who plays other instruments.

But: wow, I feel like crap about my timing every time I record. Despite going back to metronome practice since 2019, I still feel like I have a loooooooooong way to go, and I don't feel like I have an ear for micro timing stuff. Part of it is the company I keep, though. Our drummer (not my wife--she has merely "good" time) does hear micro timing stuff (what's the rhythmic equivalent of perfect pitch?), and he was hearing "mistakes" in his part that nobody else in the session could hear. I know better than to compare myself to him but I know I could do better. I'm still not as solid as I'd like when playing by myself without a metronome--and I've been playing for over 40 years at this point! Could be the drugs too--since my balance is shot most of the time, perhaps it's related to an inner sense of rhythm?
 
Could you say a bit more about that? What kinds of patterns, routines, etc? I learned odd time signatures with a Roland TR 505 back in the day.

well, i played in bands where a drum machine or laptop beat was the groove.
drummers fluctuate, but they don’t. i really had to hone in on the time. (not to say that i’m perfect at it.)

odd times, regular time, whatever; you’re playing with something that can kick your ass if you try something and come back in a little off. high hat patterns help you hear the subdivisions better. that’s the kind of thing you’ll play with, not just quarters.

ime, imo, etc.
 
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Yeah, I met him years ago when I did some talks in Australia. We are occasionally in touch. I will pass along your compliment!

I just got home from our 4-day recording session. It was super fun. We were prepared and organized, and the engineer was perfect for us. They get us and had some good suggestions. I think the record is going to turn out great. Between everyone's travel schedules the earliest the mixes will be finished is September. I learned that we are not "post-rock" which is now too solidified of a genre. We are progressive, or "neo-progressive." I'm ok with that.

I got to use the Martin Keith touch guitar, the Linnstrument, the Micromonsta 2 AND one of my modular cases, which sounded wild and fantastic. Made me want to play modular in the band again but I think I know better. We'll see. I will also get my first piano credit on this, though it's mostly power chords. I slipped in some 3rds and 9ths where I could. I also knew to stay out of everyone else's way, which is the advantage of being a beginning pianist who plays other instruments.

But: wow, I feel like crap about my timing every time I record. Despite going back to metronome practice since 2019, I still feel like I have a loooooooooong way to go, and I don't feel like I have an ear for micro timing stuff. Part of it is the company I keep, though. Our drummer (not my wife--she has merely "good" time) does hear micro timing stuff (what's the rhythmic equivalent of perfect pitch?), and he was hearing "mistakes" in his part that nobody else in the session could hear. I know better than to compare myself to him but I know I could do better. I'm still not as solid as I'd like when playing by myself without a metronome--and I've been playing for over 40 years at this point! Could be the drugs too--since my balance is shot most of the time, perhaps it's related to an inner sense of rhythm?
Congrats on putting in the work!!
I wanna hear that stuff.
Thanks for passing on the good vibes to Mr English
 
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For me it's just about getting even timing happening while playing. So I'll have the metronome going so I play once a pulse or twice a pulse. Start medium and then either get slower or faster on the theory that slow is just as hard/important to do well as fast. But I confess that the past 3 years have also been about learning touch guitar, so as I'm more working on technique and fretboard knowledge than just time / rhythm. I'll pick a version of a mode, or a finger sequence, or an interval, and then work through that.

To learn the two piano lines for the recording, I did the same thing. Set up the click and then play the part to the click.

In ensembles I tend to prefer to be a bit behind the beat but would love to be able to better control where I land on the beat consistently, for more control over feel.

This band has been practicing with a click for months (thank you SPD-SX). We are basically tight but of course a studio recording shows all your little flaws. And with someone else running the session, I could just be a player and obsess about my performances. Of course that someone else can also pull a section from another take.
 
27469870[/URL], member: 37282"]For me it's just about getting even timing happening while playing. So I'll have the metronome going so I play once a pulse or twice a pulse. Start medium and then either get slower or faster on the theory that slow is just as hard/important to do well as fast. But I confess that the past 3 years have also been about learning touch guitar, so as I'm more working on technique and fretboard knowledge than just time / rhythm. I'll pick a version of a mode, or a finger sequence, or an interval, and then work through that.

To learn the two piano lines for the recording, I did the same thing. Set up the click and then play the part to the click.

In ensembles I tend to prefer to be a bit behind the beat but would love to be able to better control where I land on the beat consistently, for more control over feel.

This band has been practicing with a click for months (thank you SPD-SX). We are basically tight but of course a studio recording shows all your little flaws. And with someone else running the session, I could just be a player and obsess about my performances. Of course that someone else can also pull a section from another take.
I’m too much of a Neanderthal to explain a complex time lesson in written from.
I can maybe do a simple bullet point type thing later today, if you are at all interested.
You’re probably surrounded by good musicians anyway that could point you in the right direction, thus making me superfluous to the equation.