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#24,061
ugly_bassplayer said:
Just keys
No midi, as close to an real piano as possible.
One good piano sound
She has an piano at her mom’s place but our house to too small to accommodate.
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Yamaha has been the gold standard for that for as long as I can remember, but I haven't been keeping up with their current models.
 
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Passinwind said:
Yamaha has been the gold standard for that for as long as I can remember, but I haven't been keeping up with their current models.
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JES said:
27640157[/URL], member: 37282"]Evergreen. @uglybassplayer , the best thing would be to take her to a store. I bet the Quebec L&M has a bunch. The pianists I know are finicky about keyboard action so trying a few would be best. Yamaha is supposed to be great but all that matters is if she likes it.
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There is no way in $:&?!!$$ a keyboard would be brought into this house without her trying it first.
It’s almost unthinkable to get one for her sight unseen.

Her current one is a Yamaha, dunno what model was worth about 1500 cad so about 50 usd, the the weighted touch is completely destroyed and it’s major peeving her off.
When it’s pp she’s plays very soft but when the chart says ff, trust me, she plays ff.

Trip to long Mcquade already planed

:)
 
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#24,069
JES said:
27642386[/URL], member: 37282"]let us know how it goes. This thread should be for all gear shopping.
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She tried out about 6 or 7, the best of the bunch was Roland RP701.

She found the lows on the Yamaha models really “muddy”.

Casio models had horrible rebound on the weighted keys, they seem very well rated be my wife hated them, like really hated.

Nothing purchased yet though.

thanks for asking
My wife laughed the I shared this here
:)
 
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Cool! On the spousal gear shopping topic, last week we hit a drum store about 45 minutes away from here. It's a little weird to have such a specialized store in a small town but the guy is a retired session musician who moved to the country. Lots of weird stuff. She picked up a less bright crash cymbal. We recently played a show where her crashes were too bright for the room so this should help. She also played a hang drum which seemed really cool sounding and ripe for granular processing. It's in a single mode, though, which I would find limiting. "Okay, this next one is also in D dorian," but then again I suppose you buy multiples.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
She found the lows on the Yamaha models really “muddy”.
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One thing -- perhaps the only thing -- that was true in the past decades when I was a lot more attentive to MIDI keyboards and is almost certainly still true today, is that to appease the needs of genuine piano players you need to shop for the keyboard controller and the sound generating apparatus seperately. The best feeling keyboards invariably came up short sonically, and the best piano emulations sound-wise seemed attached to some of the crappiest-feeling keyboards. And even the best compromises always struck real pianists as compromises first; they never could seem to get over that.

There was a Kurzweil 2600 variant that came really close, and so became the faux piano of choice at a Brooklyn recording studio where I worked in the early 00s, but even with that (enormous, heavy, and semi-inscrutable) beast we had to endure a litany of insults every time a bona fide concert pianist sat down in front of it.
 
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ugly_bassplayer said:
She tried out about 6 or 7, the best of the bunch was Roland RP701.

She found the lows on the Yamaha models really “muddy”.

Casio models had horrible rebound on the weighted keys, they seem very well rated be my wife hated them, like really hated.

Nothing purchased yet though.

thanks for asking
My wife laughed the I shared this here
:)
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I am also on the hunt for this. Some good discussion here Invalid Link Removed
 
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Bob_Ross said:
27643666[/URL], member: 234523"]One thing -- perhaps the only thing -- that was true in the past decades when I was a lot more attentive to MIDI keyboards and is almost certainly still true today, is that to appease the needs of genuine piano players you need to shop for the keyboard controller and the sound generating apparatus seperately. The best feeling keyboards invariably came up short sonically, and the best piano emulations sound-wise seemed attached to some of the crappiest-feeling keyboards. And even the best compromises always struck real pianists as compromises first; they never could seem to get over that.

There was a Kurzweil 2600 variant that came really close, and so became the faux piano of choice at a Brooklyn recording studio where I worked in the early 00s, but even with that (enormous, heavy, and semi-inscrutable) beast we had to endure a litany of insults every time a bona fide concert pianist sat down in front of it.
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All classical pianists will b!@tch about the piano/keyboard regardless of what it is, period.
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I know I might be the only one here with the Erica Black Sequencer, but I was hoping someone might shed some light on how to organize patterns. The reason I ask is because I feel like I’m not seeing something obvious. I even asked Erica about this and I didn’t get a response that made my light bulb turn on.

So, patterns exist and work as I’d expect them to (sequences with 4 tracks). Those patterns can be chained into songs, which also makes sense to me. Where I get lost is that there are 16 “banks” of patterns in a “project” but when you chain patterns to create a “song” you can only chain patterns which reside in the same bank. I wonder if “song” as it’s used in the manual is meant to be what a listener would consider a song or if it’s more of a song component (verse/chorus/etc).

it would seem that the benefit of having banks to organize patterns would be that you could chain patterns across banks and each bank would be like a song section (verse/chorus/bridge), but that’s not how this architecture works.

Does anyone have experience with other devices that use similar architecture and/or thoughts on how to leverage this? I’m just not seeing why you would have a project with 16 banks each containing 16 songs if the songs couldn’t be chained together. Perhaps it’s meant to be a live performance thing where you set one song playing then push buttons to cue up the next song.

Here’s the manual.
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#24,080
In the end there's nothing like the real thing when it comes to pianos. A friend of mine years ago when he built his house bought a used Yamaha grand piano, got it spiffed up and tuned properly, and it sounds amaze-balls. I'm no pianist but that keyboard feels awesome to the touch. He's friends with some pro jazz pianists and I've heard them absolutely rip on that piano up close. Electronics can be good, but I doubt they'll ever be that good.
 

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