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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Any one here have any suggestions for a reverb pedal that doesn’t get muddy down low.

Does it have to be a pedal?

The few times lately that I've needed reverb and A) didn't want to use either the Chase Bliss MOOD or the Soma Cosmos pedals -- neither of which really is reverb anyway -- and B) didn't have my old rackmount Alesis QuadraVerb+ -- since I sold it during lockdown -- I grabbed an ancient Alesis MicroVerb that I found sitting in a box in the closet, and it wound up working perfectly on bass. It works w/ nearly any standard Roland momentary footswitch, doesn't screw up your dry signal, and takes up less space than half the pedals on my pedalboard!

Old MicroVerb, MicroVerb II, or NanoVerb should all be similar. They sound barely passable in the studio or PA with fullrange material, but perfect if they're going through a bass amp that probably rolls off several octaves below 10kHz anyway.
 
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Does it have to be a pedal?

The few times lately that I've needed reverb and A) didn't want to use either the Chase Bliss MOOD or the Soma Cosmos pedals -- neither of which really is reverb anyway -- and B) didn't have my old rackmount Alesis QuadraVerb+ -- since I sold it during lockdown -- I grabbed an ancient Alesis MicroVerb that I found sitting in a box in the closet, and it wound up working perfectly on bass. It works w/ nearly any standard Roland momentary footswitch, doesn't screw up your dry signal, and takes up less space than half the pedals on my pedalboard!

Old MicroVerb, MicroVerb II, or NanoVerb should all be similar. They sound barely passable in the studio or PA with fullrange material, but perfect if they're going through a bass amp that probably rolls off several octaves below 10kHz anyway.
Still dig the Chase Bliss stuff?
 
Still dig the Chase Bliss stuff?

What I am especially not digging nowadays is how the MOOD requires a 200 milliamp power supply, and if I want to scale back the rig and run everyting off of a 150 milliamp One Spot, the MOOD freaks out and sounds like schidt. :::angryface:::

tbh I haven't been using any of my CBA stuff lately, in part because of ^^^that but mostly because I've been doing a lot more "normal" bass playing this year. But I do have one recurring opportunity that would be enhanced by the full compliment of wacky looping cacophony, so it'll definitely get used. The Blooper is pretty much irreproachable, and the Habit never fails to surprise me.

And I actually have a composition I wrote back in 1989 that I realize (now) was designed to rely on a MOOD...it's like I forecasted the need for a pedal that could do that, and only now realize how unfair I'd been over the years trying to coax guitarists to achieve things with normal delay pedals that only a MOOD can actually do. So I'll never get rid of it...or at least not until I record the definitive version of that piece.
 
What I am especially not digging nowadays is how the MOOD requires a 200 milliamp power supply, and if I want to scale back the rig and run everyting off of a 150 milliamp One Spot, the MOOD freaks out and sounds like schidt. :::angryface:::

tbh I haven't been using any of my CBA stuff lately, in part because of ^^^that but mostly because I've been doing a lot more "normal" bass playing this year. But I do have one recurring opportunity that would be enhanced by the full compliment of wacky looping cacophony, so it'll definitely get used. The Blooper is pretty much irreproachable, and the Habit never fails to surprise me.

And I actually have a composition I wrote back in 1989 that I realize (now) was designed to rely on a MOOD...it's like I forecasted the need for a pedal that could do that, and only now realize how unfair I'd been over the years trying to coax guitarists to achieve things with normal delay pedals that only a MOOD can actually do. So I'll never get rid of it...or at least not until I record the definitive version of that piece.
So amongst the three you would rank them
1-Blooper
2-Habit
3-Mood
??
still using the cosmos?
What band are you playing in that requires a more traditional approach?
 
What I am especially not digging nowadays is how the MOOD requires a 200 milliamp power supply, and if I want to scale back the rig and run everyting off of a 150 milliamp One Spot, the MOOD freaks out and sounds like schidt. :::angryface:::

tbh I haven't been using any of my CBA stuff lately, in part because of ^^^that but mostly because I've been doing a lot more "normal" bass playing this year. But I do have one recurring opportunity that would be enhanced by the full compliment of wacky looping cacophony, so it'll definitely get used. The Blooper is pretty much irreproachable, and the Habit never fails to surprise me.

And I actually have a composition I wrote back in 1989 that I realize (now) was designed to rely on a MOOD...it's like I forecasted the need for a pedal that could do that, and only now realize how unfair I'd been over the years trying to coax guitarists to achieve things with normal delay pedals that only a MOOD can actually do. So I'll never get rid of it...or at least not until I record the definitive version of that piece.

probably bigger than you want, but the cioks stuff has been really solid for me and i think it was handle your needs (?).

fwiw, i've had a few 1-spots and poweralls go bad on me.
 
Not bass, but this is a ZOIA talking to Ableton talking back into the ZOIA chain and an SL-2 and some CB stuff, but the Echo Collector is where the weird comes in. It's also the 2nd thing I've ever used Premiere for and my GPU cannot take the video so I kinda skimped on keyframing (automation). Still fun, and it's all time-lapses. Used zero video to make a video class final. Woo.
 
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So amongst the three you would rank them
1-Blooper
2-Habit
3-Mood
??

I don't know that I'd "rank them" in terms of appeal or usefulness or, well, anything really... they are all very different and yet cut from similar cloth. It kinda depends what I want to do with them. And more often than not, what I want to do with them depends on what other pedals are in the signal path (which more often than not includes several non-CBA pedals)

9 times out of 10 I'm using Blooper as a glorified tc Ditto: It's a straightforward record/playback looper. Easier to use than Ditto due to the two footswitches. The thing which I both love and hate about the Blooper's modifiers is that, with the exception of the Filters, they all interrupt or destroy the fabric you've captured, overtly and instantly. So it's really hard to do subtle changes to a looped texture.

Habit gets used mostly when I want to have a conversation with myself. Years ago I spent a lot of time in recording studios doing experimental tracks where I'd overdub multiple improvisations on top of one another, so that it sounded like a band full of players who sort of all knew where the tune was going and could almost telepathically follow the contours of a not-preconceived melody. Habit gives me the opportunity to bring that kind of sound into live performance; the two extra delay voices are all regurgitating material I've already played, they're just creatively reinterpreting it [sic]. It keeps the cacophony motifically relevent.

MOOD I mostly use for the scattered diffuse asymmetric not-quite-reverb (and occasionally for the reverse delays) as well as the always-listening looper.

So, different tools for different jobs. I don't really have a favorite. If I could only have one...hmm, maybe MOOD? Not sure.


still using the cosmos?

Oh yeah, Cosmos fits into the whole paradigm quite well. It excels at exactly the thing that Blooper doesn't: It can create a texture that will change/evolve over time without calling attention to itself. So I tend to load stuff into Cosmos that I want to be a background voice, as opposed to Blooper's loops which, regardless of how low in the mix they are I know that as soon as I press this button or twiddle that knob it's gonna step into a foreground role and get noticed.


What band are you playing in that requires a more traditional approach?

LOL. I've done a couple sessions with local grunge bands, kinda Soundgarden/Foo Fighters territory, and I hooked up with an 80s dance-pop cover band (although it's gonna be hard to resist dragging the synth pedals to those gigs). My career has always been a bit two-faced: The weird, wacky, uncommercial iconoclast, contrasted with the meat&potatoes journeyman session whore. Just carrying on that same tradition as I get established in my new city.

But I did also hook up with a regular soirée of local abstract free-improvisiors, so I'm still keeping my hand in that camp.


probably bigger than you want, but the cioks stuff has been really solid for me and i think it was handle your needs (?).

I have a solid power solution (courtesy of Voodoo Labs) that I can always go back to if I want to know everything will work reliably...I was just hoping to downsize in the name of portability. I'm willing to concede the OneSpot experiment was a failure. Or just that it can't include the MOOD.
 
But I did also hook up with a regular soirée of local abstract free-improvisiors, so I'm still keeping my hand in that camp.

where are you now?

I have a solid power solution (courtesy of Voodoo Labs) that I can always go back to if I want to know everything will work reliably...I was just hoping to downsize in the name of portability. I'm willing to concede the OneSpot experiment was a failure. Or just that it can't include the MOOD.

kay

if it’s the older (heavier) vl brick (which i had a million years ago), i still think the cioks might be a better choice. they have a smaller 4-outlet ps (660ma per outlet) that’s pretty nice and stable.

they don’t pay me to shill for them.
 
where are you now?

We recently relocated to Tucson AZ. We've had a pied-a-terre there for a couple of years but finally decided to start living there fulltime this summer.


if it’s the older (heavier) vl brick (which i had a million years ago), i still think the cioks might be a better choice. they have a smaller 4-outlet ps (660ma per outlet) that’s pretty nice and stable.

It's this setup:
pedalboard-2-1-15-2020.jpg

a Pedal Power Iso 5 with a Pedal Power X4 daisy-chained off it. Gives me the 18v output for the Klein Bottle plus a high-current 400mA output for the MOOD, and still has enough normal 9V outputs for everything else on the board (which is in a constant state of flux) plus a spare.
If I owned a different pedalboard/platform I could cram the Voodoo Labs stuff underneath and have room for even more stompboxes (!) but that Stompin' Ground pedalboard is just a glorified plastic cutting board covered in velcro, sits flat on the floor.
 
We recently relocated to Tucson AZ. We've had a pied-a-terre there for a couple of years but finally decided to start living there fulltime this summer.




It's this setup:
pedalboard-2-1-15-2020.jpg

a Pedal Power Iso 5 with a Pedal Power X4 daisy-chained off it. Gives me the 18v output for the Klein Bottle plus a high-current 400mA output for the MOOD, and still has enough normal 9V outputs for everything else on the board (which is in a constant state of flux) plus a spare.
If I owned a different pedalboard/platform I could cram the Voodoo Labs stuff underneath and have room for even more stompboxes (!) but that Stompin' Ground pedalboard is just a glorified plastic cutting board covered in velcro, sits flat on the floor.

fwiw,

here’s the cioks 4 and its little power dongle/thingie. the 1-spot power supply is on top of the blue elements for size comparison.

IMG_6149.jpeg
 
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