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Bummer...no big Zappa fans here. I'm a zappa freak. Around the end of high school as I was getting into college I got in deep with Frank Zappa, like all albums and interviews and anything I could get my hands on deep. Even read a book about his life. Truly ahead of his time in so many ways and so many favorite albums - we're only in it for the money; grand wazoo; lather...so much LOVE for zappa
 
It’s a tempting buy. Now that I’ve left my live-performance gig and the world has shut down, the lack of sequencer and knobs and buttons seems less important to me, when contrasting against a Digitone.

I wouldn’t try to steer anyone away from the Digitone. Great sequencer and they sound really nice. I considered it, but I’m happy with my choice and the
 
It’s a tempting buy. Now that I’ve left my live-performance gig and the world has shut down, the lack of sequencer and knobs and buttons seems less important to me, when contrasting against a Digitone.

I wouldn’t try to steer anyone away from the Digitone. Great sequencer and they sound really nice. I considered it, but I’m happy with my choice and the Octatrack has a great 8 track sequencer, so...
Also, the lack of knobs and stuff on the EssenceFM is no big deal because the UI is killer and easy to navigate. Just sayin :)
 
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i'm a heretic, as i don't worship in the church of zappa.
his sense of "humor" is one reason i got tired of him.
I think we have a consensus here.

No. Not a consensus.

I'll be the first to admit I'm a qualified Zappa fan: There are vast chunks of his repertoire that I absolutely adore...and equally vast chunks that I absolutely abhor. Or rather, am just embarrassed by. The whole "fanboi" thing eludes me; I think the worship thing goes way too far....but I have immense respect for the man as a composer, and bandleader, and idea-generator, and talent magnet, etc. etc. etc. His humor, while puerile and engaging if you're a 13-year-old, is just puerile once you hit adulthood.

Some of his musical ideas are truly sophisticated and brilliant; some of his musical ideas are truly pedestrian but cleverly disguised as sophisticated and brilliant. I'm happy to go into more detail with anyone so inclined.

A lot of his early works are definitely "of a time" ...e.g., I think We're Only In It For The Money is a brilliant album...but only in the context of 1967 or 68, when it was recorded/released. Sort of like The Beatles; it's nearly impossible to evaluate their repertoire separate from what was happening culturally and socially at that time.

On the other hand, I would say in terms of pure legacy that Uncle Meat, The Grand Wazoo, One Size Fits All, Roxy & Elsewhere, Lather, and The Yellow Shark are timeless milestones in the career of a bona fide genius.


Bummer...no big Zappa fans here.

We can hang. :beer:
 
There used to be a guy here, ex writer for a bass magazine named Tom Wictor, I think he goes by Arthritic_Tom on TB. He used to tell lots of cool stories, and he mentioned how he interviewed Scott Thunes, who played bass for Frank Zappa. He said to listen to the live album "Make a Jazz Noise Here". So I put it on my Amazon wish list so as not to forget it, and my mom looked at my list and bought it for me for Christmas. I listened to it a few times, and some of it's good, but the themes and styles seem to turn on a dime, which made it hard for me to stick with it. Anyway, it's on my CD shelf and maybe after this discussion, I'll give it another listen. Not like we couldn't use a good dose of musical surrealism right about now; maybe listen back to back with some Pere Ubu or something.

Post script to the Tom Wictor story: Scott Thunes himself wound up coming to TB (I think his user name yep_scottthunes or something) and hanging out in Tom's threads. Tom wrote a book with his music stories, but had a bad time getting ripped off or something in the process, which didn't help his already mediocre health situation, but he did wind up hanging out with Thunes' band Mother Hips, so that was cool. Haven't seen either of them on here for a few years, now, all this happened around 2013 or 2014 I think.

So I'll stop my totally unrelated side story now...
 
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No. Not a consensus.

I'll be the first to admit I'm a qualified Zappa fan: There are vast chunks of his repertoire that I absolutely adore...and equally vast chunks that I absolutely abhor. Or rather, am just embarrassed by. The whole "fanboi" thing eludes me; I think the worship thing goes way too far....but I have immense respect for the man as a composer, and bandleader, and idea-generator, and talent magnet, etc. etc. etc. His humor, while puerile and engaging if you're a 13-year-old, is just puerile once you hit adulthood.

Some of his musical ideas are truly sophisticated and brilliant; some of his musical ideas are truly pedestrian but cleverly disguised as sophisticated and brilliant. I'm happy to go into more detail with anyone so inclined.

A lot of his early works are definitely "of a time" ...e.g., I think We're Only In It For The Money is a brilliant album...but only in the context of 1967 or 68, when it was recorded/released. Sort of like The Beatles; it's nearly impossible to evaluate their repertoire separate from what was happening culturally and socially at that time.

On the other hand, I would say in terms of pure legacy that Uncle Meat, The Grand Wazoo, One Size Fits All, Roxy & Elsewhere, Lather, and The Yellow Shark are timeless milestones in the career of a bona fide genius.




We can hang. :beer:
This whole thing you did, right here, saved me from having to write it. The stuff I liked in high school (Joe's Garage, Sheik Yerbouti, etc,) I got pretty tired of once I grew up... great music/playing, but yeah, the 13 year old juvenile thing. I gravitate mostly towards the Roxy/Lather era, although there are certainly gems in every era (although I'm not really a fan of the Synclavier stuff).
 
Ok...now we're hitting the heavy stuff....
You guys are heading my way!!!.......(I like too much music.....)

Come on over!!!!....Grind, Death, Black, Crust, Punk, D-Beat, Sludge, Doom......

(Except new type tech death ultra chops artificial drum triggered stuff .....I’m allergic to that......)

@steubig
I see zero ink on that little lady...???
 
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I saw them live in DC a couple of years ago. Got bassist Michele Temple to autograph a CD. Dave Thomas is looking old these days, walked with a cane and sat down for the performance, but the band was still kickin'.

Yeah, Dave has had health issues for a long time. Their current guitar player, Gary, is an old buddy of mine. He also plays for my old band, Legendary ShackShakers.
I first saw Pere Ubu in 1980(?) at a small festival that included Wall of Voodoo, Dead Boys and Magazine. Hard to convince folks how mind blowing early Wall of Voodoo were and it certainly didn’t age well, but the first EP and full length were just awesome to me.
I’d never seen or heard Pere Ubu before that show but it’s still one of the best gigs I’ve seen in my life as I had nothing to compare them to
 
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Ok...now we're hitting the heavy stuff....
You guys are heading my way!!!.......(I like too much music.....)

Come on over!!!!....Grind, Death, Black, Crust, Punk, D-Beat, Sludge, Doom......

(Except new type tech death ultra chops artificial drum triggered stuff .....I’m allergic to that......)

@steubig
I see zero ink on that little lady...???

on the woman in jinjer. (there are other “hotter” photos.)

 
Yeah, Dave has had health issues for a long time. Their current guitar player, Gary, is an old buddy of mine. He also plays for my old band, Legendary ShackShakers.
I first saw Pere Ubu in 1980(?) at a small festival that included Wall of Voodoo, Dead Boys and Magazine. Hard to convince folks how mind blowing early Wall of Voodoo were and it certainly didn’t age well, but the first EP and full length were just awesome to me.
I’d never seen or heard Pere Ubu before that show but it’s still one of the best gigs I’ve seen in my life as I had nothing to compare them to

that’s cool. i still like wov with stan, as well as stan’s first couple solo albs.
 
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