Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[ugly_bassplayer]

apparently it's game on in the world of loopers that want to emulate the edp thang.

from the fb post where i got this:

Also seen on a forum post: "With Beebo looper module that I'll be uploading this week I am aiming for all EDP functions. Full midi binding. As many loops as you want. You can also loop control values if you'd like to loop pitch or automation for other modules."

Ok, now my stupid question.....why not just get an original EDP ??

 

[JES]

apparently it's game on in the world of loopers that want to emulate the edp thang.

from the fb post where i got this:

Also seen on a forum post: "With Beebo looper module that I'll be uploading this week I am aiming for all EDP functions. Full midi binding. As many loops as you want. You can also loop control values if you'd like to loop pitch or automation for other modules."

I returned my Beebo, but IIRC there is no analog dry through, which means everything you play through it has some latency. Would work for more ambient looping but not stuff where you want to focus on timing.

 

[steubig]

Ok, now my stupid question.....why not just get an original EDP ??

rare-ish, rack, old tech with no current manufacturer (out of production for 13 years or so)—no support. however, used prices are cheaper than i expected.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I know of a Swedish sampling machine that is a great looper and runs circles around the MC707, but I get in trouble for mentioning it

Yeah, pretty much gave up on that one. Might be one of the most innovative pieces of gear in years it has too many features I wouldn’t use.
So the octatrack isnt the problem, its me!!!
(As usual....)

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

rare-ish, rack, old tech with no current manufacturer (out of production for 13 years or so)—no support. however, used prices are cheaper than i expected.

Are they well built for gigs or fragile like a TC ditto??

 

[steubig]

Are they well built for gigs or fragile like a TC ditto??

no personal experience

@Bob_Ross ?

 

[Bob_Ross]

Are they well built for gigs or fragile like a TC ditto??

no personal experience
@Bob_Ross ?

I don't know what you guys are doing to your Dittos to keep breaking them, mine's been working flawlessly for half a dozen years at least!

The main EDP unit is "built for gigs" if you bolt it into a standard 19-inch rack and don't treat it like a basketball. E.g., it's no less durable than most other MI rack gear designed for performing musicians. The standard EDP footswitch [model EFC-7] however is definitely not "well built" ...the seven footswitches are cheap soft-touch buttons that aren't very securely mounted to the stamped steel housing, and all seven buttons share a common ground which is a solid piece of buss bar soldered to one pin on each switch...so when you step on any switch the housing flexes slightly, putting stress on the buss bar which eventually snaps.

 

[steubig]

one other thing: ime, dittos, like a lot of digigear, do not do well if you underpower them. they can definitely hum and have other issues.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I don't know what you guys are doing to your Dittos to keep breaking them, mine's been working flawlessly for half a dozen years at least!

The main EDP unit is "built for gigs" if you bolt it into a standard 19-inch rack and don't treat it like a basketball. E.g., it's no less durable than most other MI rack gear designed for performing musicians. The standard EDP footswitch [model EFC-7] however is definitely not "well built" ...the seven footswitches are cheap soft-touch buttons that aren't very securely mounted to the stamped steel housing, and all seven buttons share a common ground which is a solid piece of buss bar soldered to one pin on each switch...so when you step on any switch the housing flexes slightly, putting stress on the buss bar which eventually snaps.

I think I would need to rehouse every gig pedal I have to a Boss enclosure.
Just looking at my EHX pitchfork and I’m scared the toggle switch will snap and the footswtich will pop out to the ceiling.
But for real, haven’t had one die on me in quite a while.......(knocks on wood......that means I’m due for some bad luck...)

Edit: Yes, one crapped out on me in the last few months during band practice, my custom made Saturnworks 2 channel on\off switch for my dual rig. (Just before the world wide fubar)
Turned out my first version of this pedal had crap 1\4 connectors.

Edit 2 : yes I step on them like a caveman.

 

[monsterthompson]

Proverb

 

[HotelX]

Sounds lovely

 

[dukeorock]

Yeah, pretty much gave up on that one. Might be one of the most innovative pieces of gear in years it has too many features I wouldn’t use.
So the octatrack isnt the problem, its me!!!
(As usual....)

It’s got a ton of features I don’t use as well. Still my favorite box

 

[monsterthompson]

It’s got a ton of features I don’t use as well. Still my favorite box

Nobody buys a Swiss Army knife to use the toothpick or the leather punch.

 

[steubig]

Nobody buys a Swiss Army knife to use the toothpick or the leather punch.

i’ve used both numerous times (toothpick in particular).

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

It’s got a ton of features I don’t use as well. Still my favorite box

This is my favorite box

 

[Feral Feline]

HAHAHAHA!
I actually have one of those! Ordered it right after I saw it, ages ago, have yet to "build" it.

I've got devious plans to build one into an OD pedal, get a friend to 3D print a skeleton that crawls out from under a hinged VU meter and turns off the EQ toggle-switch. Maybe the first time or two your unsuspecting bandmate/friend doesn't notice why the sound changes back, but then twill be soon obvious. Maybe after 5 times it resets completely. First flip of the switch – 30 seconds; flip it – 20 seconds; flip it – 10 seconds, then 5, then immediately then reset to the beginning 30 seconds.

So the pedal will be useful, but the toggle EQ will be useless.


Need to figure out the timing, and how to make the mechanism small enough to fit a 1590BB...

 

[Bob_Ross]

Nobody buys a Swiss Army knife to use the toothpick or the leather punch.

:::slaps forehead::: I just realized that the most commonly used tool on my Leatherman was probably intended to be a "leather punch"!
To me it's always just been "that tiny sharp pointed blade" that's super handy for unlocking ZipTies, or scrapping corrosion off connectors, or reaming wood... You'd think the fact that the whole tool is called a "Leatherman" would have given me a clue!

 

[WestyBassBob]

Nobody buys a Swiss Army knife to use the toothpick or the leather punch.

The toothpick no. I always wondered why they even bothered. Who wants to use a toothpick more than once?

The awl though is super useful.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Proverb

I recall someone mentioning unity volume between fx on and off was an issue.
Can't remember who???
Sound awesome though and that feedback switch is dope.
Had a mantic hulk but sold a few years ago since I wasn't playing gigs with sufficient PA support anymore.

Edit: I also believe this is a BB reverb to those in the know.

 

[JES]

I recall someone mentioning unity volume between fx on and off was an issue.
Can't remember who???
Sound awesome though and that feedback switch is dope.
Had a mantic hulk but sold a few years ago since I wasn't playing gigs with sufficient PA support anymore.

Edit: I also believe this is a BB reverb to those in the know.

Yes, I think it is. I think @emjazz had one? Love the feedback. Still waiting for my dream BB reverb.