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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
- Thread starter ttasselm
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You ever enjoy the gear you just bought so much that you shrug off the idea of buying the other gear you were also thinking of buying? It’s a very strange feeling. I think I’m having... is it fun? I think it might be fun.
- Mar 8, 2011
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I’ve got that same Dual LPG. Dirt cheap and works great!
I almost got the Erica LPG after seeing this...
As LPG’s go, I’d say it’s pretty dang epic! And can CV everything. Really next level LPG
Yeah. It could be a bit better in "both" mode (VCA + VCF). I find it doesn't easily peak high enough for my tastes. You've gotta set the "offset" control starting position fairly low to keep it silent between notes, but then the output level needs a boost. It isn't unusable, but it isn't what I was expecting. Maybe a first-order instead of second-order filter is what I wanted based on my 0-Coast. I actually prefer it in VCA or VCF mode, but not both.
That said, I opted to augment my weekend purchase. I enjoyed the Black VCO 2 enough that I grabbed the Expander module which allows access to some additional features. I was on the fence, but it wasn't too pricey so I caved. I hopped over to Modular Grid and tried to figure out where I'm going to move things, and what a second skiff would look like with my leftovers. I'm kinda tempted to put both Joysticks (1 & 2) in the big case. As fancy as it looks, I think I'm moving the Octasource out to make room. Academically, I get why it is cool, but I just don't use it often.
All things considered, I'm very happy with my new toys, and I've played more this weekend than I have in a while.
@dukeorock - Check the Black Joystick 2. Seriously. 4 Channels. 8 seconds of motion recording. Drone OSC and S&H.
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- Mar 8, 2011
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Thanks JES for explaining that.
That would be me, the non-synth nerd. I didn't know Liquid Propane Gas could be converted to a solid GAS, but this is what I found regarding Low Pass Gate:
So if Fairfield Circuitry has a pedal with an LPG in it, then would it be worth my while to make a pedal-based replica of the Buchla LPG (the schematic was in the vid above), ie would it be either fun or useful to play my upright through the LPG, or am I just better off with cloning a Mutron or DOD FX25 or even simply buying the Fairfield Shallow Water?
@Feral Feline Mutron and DOD are envelope filters, not LPGs, which the video gets wrong.
I can see why he makes the mistake, though. The effect is similar but the operation is a little different. An envelope filter opens and closes a filter according to the amplitude of the input. Classic LPGs like the Buchla are not resonant (like the Erica is) and attenuate the volume and close the filter at the same time as the input amplitude decreases. What will work best for you depends on what you want it to do.
Google "Buchla bongos" if you want to see one of the standard applications in modular synthesis. They are generally preferred to VCAs when people want a more "woody" or "organic" and less precise decay on a sound. Buchla's used vactrols, whereas the Erica uses some other set of components (which is why it resonates).
Hope that helps!
I can see why he makes the mistake, though. The effect is similar but the operation is a little different. An envelope filter opens and closes a filter according to the amplitude of the input. Classic LPGs like the Buchla are not resonant (like the Erica is) and attenuate the volume and close the filter at the same time as the input amplitude decreases. What will work best for you depends on what you want it to do.
Google "Buchla bongos" if you want to see one of the standard applications in modular synthesis. They are generally preferred to VCAs when people want a more "woody" or "organic" and less precise decay on a sound. Buchla's used vactrols, whereas the Erica uses some other set of components (which is why it resonates).
Hope that helps!
One other thought: in synth land, LPGs are often explained as more accurately simulating the “natural decay” of an acoustic instrument, where higher frequencies decay faster than lower frequencies. I personally don’t my synths to sound like acoustic instruments most of the time, but as a colour for the paintbrush, it’s great.
Quick video of the Joystick modulating the LPG and Delay. Same sequence running through the whole thing. The phone audio didn't do a great job of catching the LPG modulation of amplitude and decay time, but you should hear it change a bit. It can be more noticeable than what this shows.
Notice the button push changing the Joystick channels which changes the modulation destination.
Notice the button push changing the Joystick channels which changes the modulation destination.
Tremendously helpful and emphatically informative, many thanks!
Do you happen to know, is the Erica using OTA in place of the vactrols?
Many thanks for taking the time to make and post that, I quite enjoyed it.
I'll need to tread in this thread more carefully, that was too much "fun-sounding" and I must be wary lest I get sucked down in to a black hole of trying to solder modular synths together. I'm trying to maintain focus, on seeing what can be subverted from modular to stompbox...
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Too late for me.
I'm too far down the noise art , musique concrète something hole.
I can't do normal anymore.
(Add the fact that my hip hop beats still suck after so many years. Someday, it will click.....but not today I think)
Edit: welcome back everyone
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Welcome back! I missed this thread the most.
Did we get a head count? Did everyone make it out okay?
:::marked himself safe from the TalkBass server fire/crash:::
Medusa firmware upgrade just turned it into an FM synth. It's a little click/hiss in some settings, but there's good sound in there.
I was getting worried that i'd need to find some of you on other platforms.
I was getting worried that i'd need to find some of you on other platforms.
